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Hmmm - guess there is no way Kipnis goes to CF now!!

Don't ask me why we wanted Kyle Dowdy in the deal. He has got worse in each of his 4 years in minors. Allowed more hits than innings pitched, and far less K's than innings. He is "Just A Guy". Maybe we needed another warm body in AAA or something.

The other guy we got in the deal, perhaps AAA filler:

Kyle Dowdy
Age: 25
Bats/Throws: R/R
6' 1" / 195
P
Birthdate: 2/3/1993 (25 y, 5 m, 28 d)
Drafted: 2015 June Amateur Draft - Round: 12, Pick: 25, Overall: 370, Team: Detroit Tigers
Contract: Add New Contract


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Hillbilly wrote:Don't ask me why we wanted Kyle Dowdy in the deal. He has got worse in each of his 4 years in minors. Allowed more hits than innings pitched, and far less K's than innings. He is "Just A Guy". Maybe we needed another warm body in AAA or something.

That's what I think. Someone to fill a spot in AAA.

He did strike out 92 in 95 innings this year. Moved from AA to AAA.

Woo hoo! Fresh meat!

That is just in AA. In AAA this year he had far less K than IP. Over the course of this season, and over his entire minor league career too.

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Quick look at Dowdy:
Hit AAA in his 3rd pro season
Bad overall stats, but good K/9 in AA
Split time as SP & RP, numbers much better in RP.

Hillbilly wrote:That is just in AA. In AAA this year he had far less K than IP. Over the course of this season, and over his entire minor league career too.

HB - edited that to include both. Though it appears he might have been switched to bullpen at some point

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Fans often want the sexy move -- not the realistic one. Martin has a 113 wRC+ vs. RHP and is a plus defender in CF. Helps bottom of lineup and ticks up runs saved in OF. Not a wow move, but it makes a lot of sense.

Kind of what I figured. It was reasonably certain that Willi or Chang would be traded, although I expected a package. Martin hardly puts us "over the top" but he's better than what we have now in center field. I'm happy to add a good defender, athletic guy. 251/321/409 shouldn't be a step up but on this team it is. He's stopped stealing bases, only 7 this year and he doesn't walk much, never has. So he hits 9th. I liked him better before I looked up his stats.

Detroit Tigers trade Leonys Martin to Indians for infield prospect
Anthony Fenech, Detroit Free Press Published 12:39 p.m. ET July 31, 2018 | Updated 1:37 p.m. ET July 31, 2018


More than three hours before the non-waiver trade deadline at 4 p.m. on Tuesday afternoon, the Detroit Tigers finally struck.

Throughout the summer, their players were not highly-coveted. But a couple hours away, in Cleveland, the eventual American League Central Division champions needed a center fielder.

The Tigers moved Martin for shortstop prospect Willi Castro, who is considered a “legitimate prospect” by one rival talent evaluator. Castro, 21, is hitting .245 with five home runs and 39 RBIs for Double-A Akron this season.

Also headed to Cleveland in the deal is right-handed prospect Kyle Dowdy.

The Tigers signed Martin, 30, to a one-year deal this past offseason. He is arbitration-eligible for one more year. In 78 games this season, the left-handed-hitting outfielder has hit .251 with nine home runs and 29 RBIs, a .321 on-base percentage and seven steals. He also has a .992 fielding percentage and nine outfield assists.

Castro is a .263 hitter with 26 home runs in five minor-league seasons. He is a switch-hitter and hails from Puerto Rico. Castro is ranked as the No. 9 prospect in the Indians’ system, according to Baseball America.

One rival talent evaluator thinks the Tigers, “Did well to get him for Martin.” Another says of Castro, “Like the guy’s potential with the bat. What position he ultimately plays is a question. Switch-hitter, chance to be a solid hit and power guy.”

The Tigers have shown a desire to beef up their farm system with middle infielders in the past year: Last season, they acquired four middle infielders in their flurry of summer trades.

Castro adds another to the mix.

On Dowdy, 25, there is a likelihood he was included in the deal in order to receive a better prospect in return. He is 8-8 with a 4.74 ERA and a 1.43 WHIP in 24 games (14 starts) between Double-A Erie and Triple-A Toledo this season. The right-hander was picked by the Tigers in the 12th round of the 2015 draft.

The Tigers were not going to give Martin away, because of his price -- $1.75 million this season – and contract status. Martin is third-year arbitration-eligible in the offseason and would have been one of only a few experienced hitters returning next season.

But Martin was signed with an eye toward the trade deadline and responded with a solid performance, despite nagging hamstring issues. Ultimately, the Tigers decided Castro was the kind of player they signed Martin to trade for. The trade market likely would not have looked any more favorably on Martin this winter: The Indians paid up because they are a team in need.

To take Martin's spot on the 25-man roster, the Tigers announced they have recalled outfielder Mike Gerber from Toledo. The 26-year-old had a brief stint in the majors this season, going hitless in two at-bats. This year in Triple-A, Gerber is hitting .214 with 13 home runs and 33 RBIs in 69 games.

On Dowdy, 25, there is a likelihood he was included in the deal in order to receive a better prospect in return

Not very likely, really. The Clippers are a little thin of starters, they are using a lot of old timers in their rotation so Dowdy can add some depth there. It's hard to imagine how his inclusion added much to Cleveland's incentive to deal Willi. He's a good player and could well be a major leaguer in a couple season. Offense has been a little disappointing this year.

On Martin only stealing 7 bases this year ... He’s had a leg (knee I think) that’s been bothering him at times this year. Hopefully platooning gives him extra rest and helps it to stop flaring up once in a while.

It was bothering him a little this weekend against us. When Brantley hit that triple just over outstretched glove of Martin some people I was with said he probably would have gotten that if his leg wasn’t barking.

Sorry I don’t know exact issue. Just that it is not apparently bad enough for surgery. But I’m sure a quick search could find it.

oh oh… not another outfielder who might need to be shut down....

2 more mintues. We're on the clock