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Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:16 am
by civ ollilavad
Didnt' he play Chisenhall in center last year or the year before on occasion?
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:28 am
by TFIR
Yes! Lonnie actually played 19 games in CF last season.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:29 am
by seagull
Major League players can usually man any position on the field. They have a "best" position but can fill in anywhere in a pinch.
New trend?
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/2378 ... ield-mound
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:31 am
by TFIR
Mentioned this before but I went to a Tribe game in 1968 where McDowell started, went to 2B while Chance relieved him in the 8th, then came back in to finish the game.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:37 am
by civ ollilavad
I was there, too, I thought Mike Paul came in but couldn't be right since he was another lefty. Highlight of that was that Eddie Leon shifted to 3rd and the batter facing the reliever grounded to Eddie, whose arm wasn't strong enough to throw across the diamond so he tossed to Sam at 2nd: who stepped quickly on the base and even more quickly got out of the way.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:27 am
by TFIR
Yeah, quite sure it was Chance. And yes I remember McDowell catching the force play to end the inning.
Maybe my memory is faulty but I believe Sudden Sam came back to strike out the side in the 9th?
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:51 pm
by Uncle Dennis
Anyone else remember Rocky Colavito coming in from right to pitch in relief?
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:21 pm
by civ ollilavad
Unfortunately nowadays we can actually get the definitive answer on line I guess. It was more fun when all we could do was argue about it and no one knew for sure.
Not Stan Williams, by any chance?
And another day Alvin Dark moved Jim Rittwage over to play 1st base and then returned to the mound. Maybe that was the time Mike Paul relieved since he was a lefty and Rittwage a righthander.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:23 pm
by civ ollilavad
Boy was that easy to find:
July 6, 1970: The game when Sam McDowell played second base for the Indians
This article was written by Joseph Wancho
Judging by the announced attendance of 11,950, those who pushed their way through the turnstiles at Cleveland Stadium on July 6, 1970, were not expecting much. And who could blame them? The visiting Washington Senators and the hometown Indians were bottom dwellers in the American League’s Eastern Division. The Nats occupied fifth place while the Tribe was in the cellar in sixth.
Their positions in the standings had just switched, as Washington was leading Cleveland at the beginning of the month. Each team had different results in their four-game series over the Fourth of July holiday. The Indians were swept in a four-game series by Boston at Fenway Park while Washington took three of four from New York at Yankee Stadium.
Perhaps one of the reasons there were that many folks at the ballpark was that Indians’ ace Sam McDowell was the starting pitcher. He was opposed by the Senators’ Joe Coleman. McDowell was having a strong season to date (11-4, 2.64 ERA). He had already recorded 10 or more strikeouts in seven games. The high mark was 15 punchouts at Chicago on May 6, a 2-1 loss for the Indians. McDowell and catcher Ray Fosse would be headed to the All-Star Game the following week.
As for Coleman, the first half of the season had its highs and lows. Coleman, the son of Joe Coleman Sr., a former major-league pitcher, started the season with a 5-3 record and a 3.05 ERA. However, he had now lost his last four games coming into the matchup with Cleveland, and had a 5-7 record with a 3.95 ERA.
The Senators broke through on the scoreboard in the first inning. With one out, McDowell surrendered three straight singles to center. The last one, by Rick Reichardt, drove in the first run. A walk to Aurelio Rodriguez filled the bases and Paul Casanova tallied another run with a sacrifice fly. McDowell got out of the jam by striking out Tim Cullen, but it seemed as if Sudden Sam was not on his game. He had to fan Reichardt with the bases loaded to get out of the second inning and walked Rodriguez to open the third inning. Casanova doubled to left field. Both runners scored on a single by Cullen, as Washington extended its lead to 4-0.
The Indians finally cut into the deficit in their third when Graig Nettles smacked a two-out, two-run home run over the right-field fence. The blast was his 12th of the season. The Indians inched a bit closer at 4-3 when Duke Sims nicked Coleman for his 11th home run, to left-center field, in the bottom of the fourth inning.
After his initial bout of ineffectiveness, McDowell settled in and was having little trouble with the Senators. A walk to Frank Howard in the fourth inning and a single by Ed Brinkman were the only blemishes in the middle frames for Sudden Sam. “I had to change everything,” he said after the game. “I was going with all my four pitches and getting creamed. I’d throw inside and they’d hit the opposite way. I’d throw outside; they’d go the other way. Bloops were going here and there. I said the heck with the game plan. I’m going to my fastball. From the fifth inning on, 99 percent were blazers.”1
The Indians pulled ahead in the sixth inning. Nettles led off with a double to left field and moved up on a wild pitch by Coleman. Vada Pinson singled him home to knot the score at 4-4. It didn’t stay that way for long when Sims smashed his 12th home run, and second of the game, to right field with a man aboard. Cleveland had seized a 6-4 advantage.
Washington attempted a rally of its own in the top of the seventh inning. Howard and Reichardt led off with singles. But with runners on first and second and no outs, McDowell reached back deep for his vaunted fastball, striking out Rodriguez, Casanova, and Cullen to retire the side.
Even though McDowell was now going with his bread-and-butter pitch, the Senators were still putting runners on base. In the top of the eighth inning, Ed Stroud led off with a single to right field. One out later, Ed Brinkman also singled to right. A wild pitch moved the runners up to second and third base. McDowell then struck out Tom Grieve for the second out.
Up to the plate stepped Frank Howard. The 6-foot-7 first baseman was nicknamed the “Washington Monument.” But it was not only his size that pitchers feared. He had the power to go with it. He was one of the most feared sluggers of his era. It was strictly power vs. power when they faced each other. For his lifetime, Howard hit .368 off McDowell. He also had more walks (25) and intentional walks (9) against McDowell than any other pitcher.
Cleveland manager Alvin Dark was very much aware of Howard’s ability against his left-handed ace. Dark paid a visit to the mound. “Here’s what I think I am going to do,” said Dark. “I think I am going to put you on second base, move Eddie Leon to third, and bring in Dean Chance to pitch to Howard.”2
McDowell was taken off-guard by Dark’s strategy. “When I could talk, I said that’s fine, I can handle it,” Sam said.3
Chance arrived at the mound and took the ball from Dark. Chance was instructed to walk Howard. “All of a sudden, I realized what Alvin was doing,” said Chance. “Even though I walk Howard, who is the potential winning run, now we can counter any move [Washington manager] Ted Williams might make.
“If Williams sends up a left-handed pinch-hitter, Sam comes back to face him. If Reichardt stays in, I handle him.”4
The crowd buzzed with anticipation as McDowell took his position at the keystone position. One of those fans who couldn’t bear to watch the action was McDowell’s wife, Carol. “I can never watch when Sam’s in trouble,” she said. “I just don’t look at times like that. I ask whoever is sitting next to me what happened?”5
Williams left Reichardt in to hit. The Senators’ right fielder tapped one to Leon, who threw to McDowell to force Howard for the second out. Later, McDowell said, “I saw Leon come up with the ball and start to throw to me, but then I lost it momentarily in the white-shirt background. So I just got over the base and got down to both knees. Then I looked for the ball. Finally, I found it – but there was no way it could have gone through me, believe me.”6
Sudden Sam returned to the hill for the ninth inning. He struck out the side for the victory, his 12th of the year. His 15 punchouts were one shy of a career high. He threw 148 pitches in the game.
Sam McDowell won 20 games in 1970, the only season in his career that he reached that mark. He led the league with 304 strikeouts. His career began to go downhill after that season. His battle with alcoholism was a big contributor to his downward spiral. McDowell was traded to San Francisco in 1971. He was out of baseball in 1975.
Eventually McDowell beat his disease and worked as a counselor to professional athletes who suffered in the same way. He was very successful in his new career, which he worked at well into the twenty-first century.7
Sources
The author used BaseballReference.com and Retrosheet.org for box scores, play-by-play accounts the game, and other pertinent material.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:23 pm
by civ ollilavad
And you got in right on all points! well done TFIR
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:50 pm
by civ ollilavad
Well I found it was 3rd base that Rittwage moved over to play also in 1970 when Alvin Dark outsmarted everyone and that's how he led the Indians to the World Series.
Well not exactly, 76-86 which was pretty good for the Indians in those days.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:48 pm
by TFIR
civ ollilavad wrote:And you got in right on all points! well done TFIR
Wow, thanks civ for finding that!
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:35 pm
by Hillbilly
Well reason 947 I don’t know what I’m talking about. Naquin has been activated and is going to start in CF tonight. I’m happy to be wrong. Sick of the CF spot being an automatic out in our lineup. We made it to World Series with Naquin in center so he can’t be that bad.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:02 pm
by TFIR
Agree and I think this would have happened sooner if he hadn't gotten hurt. He was just starting to roll - and really we don't have another alternative that makes any sense.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:23 pm
by seagull
Thanks for digging up that story about McDowell, Civ. Sometimes I have trouble remembering what I had for breakfast but names from nearly 50 years ago brought back some memories.