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Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:17 pm
by eocmcdoc
I think something is wrong with Miller. His volocity is down and putting to many over the plate.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 4:01 pm
by TFIR
Unless he still injured I just think that he's still very rusty. The guy went through that freezing April then gets hurt. Heck, relievers don't throw that much anyways. The guy has thrown 14 total innings.
He comes back and promptly gets thrown into a 2 inning outing.
Relievers need a chance to get a rhythm going and I just don't feel he's had that yet.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 4:40 pm
by TFIR
Update - Miller back on DL. This won't help....
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 4:54 pm
by seagull
Most pitchers that have reached the Major League level, coach themselves. They know what it feels like when they are throwing well. They also know when something isn't right. They make their own adjustments.
Pitching coaches at the Major League levels are usually just cheerleaders. They monitor training regimes set by the organization and don't offer advice unless asked.
Occasionally, they are asked by players to help identify what is different from when they were throwing well. Identifying the root problem is a hard job. Some are good at it and some are not.
Mickey Callaway and Jason Bere (bullpen) were replaced with Carl Willis and Scott Atchinson.
Callaway had a better offer but Bere was just let go. Atchinson's qualifications as a coach are questionable.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 5:05 pm
by TFIR
I do think that is a possibility but then I wonder why the rotation is THIS good - even Plutko when called up.
When looking at the bullpen I see a Miller and Cody that were used an awful lot the last couple seasons. It's not unusual for bullpens to have high turnover rates due to usage.
Shaw leaves. Smith leaves. Shaw was a workhorse who seemed to never be overworked.
And guys have not been able to reach a higher level when asked to take on a higher level role.
So I do also think that the front office not moving to get a replacement for Joe Smith and Brian Shaw shares responsibility too.
Throw in the Miller injuries (overuse?).....
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 5:21 pm
by TFIR
Bieber to the pen? It's not that unusual to break in a kid in the bullpen first.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 5:51 pm
by TFIR
By the way - just sayin' - the Tribe is not known for fast starts under Tito.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 6:30 pm
by Hillbilly
Bieber to rotation, Plutko to pen. But either way could not be any worse. We have to do something. This can't continue. Bieber is only pitcher in AAA that I am excited about. Hell, when Merritt gets back try him at lefty specialist in pen.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 11:43 am
by Hillbilly
Happy birthday, TFIR!
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 9:01 pm
by Uncle Dennis
Ditto TFIR. Still remember taking in a game in Rochester with you all those years ago!
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sun May 27, 2018 10:43 pm
by eocmcdoc
Happy Birthday TFIR.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 1:54 am
by Hillbilly
UD, sadly, at his age, TFIR probably doesn’t remember any more.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 7:53 am
by Uncle Dennis
Say.....what does that make me?????
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:23 am
by TFIR
Hey - thanks guys for the birthday wishes.
Spent a good part of the day on the golf course with the wife and Cleveland sports gave me quite the day!
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon May 28, 2018 8:24 am
by TFIR
Uncle Dennis wrote:Ditto TFIR. Still remember taking in a game in Rochester with you all those years ago!
That was awesome UD!