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Re: General Discussion
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:06 pm
by J.R.
No way are the Indians going to give him a 5 year deal, at any price.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:55 pm
by J.R.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:17 pm
by civ ollilavad
Bruce has a big advantage as a Free Agent in that the time that signs him cannot lose a draft choice. Carlos will have that millstone around his negotiations.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:39 pm
by TFIR
Great point.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:46 pm
by TFIR
Just an impression - the Mets organization is talking now about how they want to use their bullpen more next year and limit how long their starters (injury ridden) go.
Hmm..so the Mets are going to need some serious bullpen inning eaters to do this. Would it surprise us to see the Mets (Callaway) put in a call to Shaw's agent?
Seems like a fit.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:50 pm
by seagull
Bruce and Santana will most likely receive relatively low-ball offers on short term deals from the Tribe.
I think the Tribe's attitude is "we're not going to break the bank for you guys". "Call us in the spring if you can't find a job".
Plenty of fish in the ocean.
Rather than begging people to come to Cleveland, as they did in the past, they can be a lot more selective....for a change.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:55 am
by TFIR
Great post seagull!
Look, last year showed that often times sluggers don't get the contract they think they will. Our own Encarnacion, but also guys like Trumbo ended up signing very late for less.
Remember Chris Carter? From 41 homers to very late signing at $3.5 mill. then cut!
So Jay Bruce especially will have to wait out the market IMO. Santana perhaps but then again maybe his ties here will lead to both sides being reasonable. Not holding breath there but at least it's possible.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:18 pm
by civ ollilavad
Your Callaway/Shaw suggestion makes very much sense.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:36 am
by TFIR
Thanks civ.
Hey, Hoynsie: With the Marlins appearing to be in a complete tear down, I think the Indians should be looking at their controllable and affordable outfielders, Christian Yelich and Marcell Ozuna.
The only two true fulltime outfielders Cleveland has, Michael Brantley and Bradley Zimmer, are hurt, and there aren't any outfield prospects who will be ready any time soon. With some depth of pitching prospects and expendable position player prospects such as Yu Cheng-Chang and Bobby Bradley, do you think the Indians will make a move? -- David Bolger, Lakewood.
Hey, David: What, do you have something against Giancarlo Stanton and the $295 million the Marlins still owe him? Yeah, I'm kidding.
Depending on how serious Derek Jeter is about moving Ozuna and Yelich, I think the Indians would definitely look into that situation. Rumors have connected them to Ozuna over recent years.
Ozuna, a free agent in 2020, is coming off a big year in which he hit .312 (191-for-613) with 37 homers, 124 RBI and a .924 OPS. Yelich, a center fielder, is signed through 2021 and has $42 million left on his contract. He hit .282 (170-for-602) with 100 runs, 81 RBI and a .807 OPS in 2017.
If the Indians can't find a hitter to help them through free agency, a trade is the next step.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:36 am
by TFIR
Man would Ozuna be the perfect guy for this team or what?
And affordable. That said, it would cost us big time in prospects.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:41 am
by civ ollilavad
Pluto's column Sunday said look for Indians to be trading, not signing FA's, this winter.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:50 am
by Hillbilly
Jon Heyman reporting that he has talked to all agents involved and none of the 9 MLB players that were offered the 17+ mill qualifying offer is going to accept it.
That includes Carlos Santana, whose agent is going to meet with the Red Sox at the upcoming winter meeting, according to Nick Cafardo of the Globe.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:16 pm
by TFIR
HB - I was talking to a Red Sox fan yesterday and they are kicking the tire on ALL good hitters.
Thing is, all year the jury was out as to whether losing Big Papi would affect their lineup. Well, season is over and the jury is in.
Pretty much all hitters hit less than they did a year ago. We are talking Bogaerts, Betts, Hanley. The large presence of Papi was missed.
Hence they are also inquiring on Stanton too.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:23 pm
by J.R.
In December of 1941, Bob Feller became the first American pro athlete to enlist in the military following the attack on Pearl Harbor, serving in the Navy for nearly four years.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:46 am
by Hillbilly
Antonetti wins TSN Executive of the Year.