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Wonder if they're considering Santana in the OF again, too. Could have an outfield with Santana and Kipnis and Bruce in the world series.

They did that in NL parks this year during inter league play. You could definitely see it again in World Series. But otherwise I doubt they move him. He's been playing a stellar 1st base.

BTW Civ, did you scroll back and see that post about the record with 1 loss you were asking about? cRaZy.

Yeah, I did. It was also in the NY Times this morning. Back in 1884!! it was hardly the same game. How many strikes for a strikeout? How many balls for a walk? Was there such thing as a fence to hit a homerun over? I think they were past the time when you could register an out by throwing at a runner on the basepath?

Just checked in with Siri: that was during the Chester A. Arthur administration!!

We can also be sure that the Grays did NOT win the World Series despite their streak. Since there was no World Series.

Here are the official rules of baseball for 1884. I haven't had a chance to read them through yet. I do notice that the pitchers' "line" was 50 feet from home plate.

http://www.19cbaseball.com/rules-22.html

Here's an interesting rule included:

Rule 45. The Batsman is out
1.If he fails to take his position at the bat in his order of batting, unless the error be discovered and the proper Batsman take his position before a fair hit has been made.
2.If he fails to take his position within one minute after the Umpire has called for the Batsman.
3.If he makes a foul hit and the ball be momentarily held by a fielder before touching the ground, or after touching the ground but once, provided it be not caught in a fielder's hat or cap, or touch some object other than the fielder before touching the ground, or before being caught.
4.If he makes a foul strike.
5.If he plainly attempts to hinder the Catcher from catching the ball, evidently without effort to make a fair hit.

Rule 46. The batsman becomes a Base-Runner
1.When he makes a fair hit.
2.When seven balls have been called by the Umpire.
3.When three strikes have been declared by the Umpire.
4.When a balk has been called by the Umpire.
5.When he is given his base as provided in Sec 8., Rule 48.

This is a bit different from modern rules:

The Batsman, on taking his position, must call for a "high ball," a "low ball," or a "high or low ball," and the Umpire shall notify the Pitcher to deliver the ball as required; such call shall not be changed after the first ball delivered. The Umpire shall count and call every "unfair ball" delivered by the Pitcher, and every "dead ball" if also an "unfair ball," as a "ball;" and he shall also count and call every "strike." Neither a "ball" nor a "strike" shall be called or counted until the ball has passed the Home Base.

BA is still putting out a daily "prospect report" so now it's just rookies in the majors. A never-before-noted pitcher gets a brief writeup today

Tyler Olsen, LHP, Indians - Olson struggled in his first tastes of the majors with Seattle in 2015 and the Yankees in 2016, but has come into his own with the Indians this year in his official rookie campaign. Olson has yet to allow a run in 17.2 innings of relief this season, and earned his first career save Thursday with a perfect ninth to finish off a 4-1 win over the Angels

Sounds like the Skankees need a pitching coach.

Miller, Goody and Olsen were introduced to Mickey Callaway and the Indian's system and blossomed.

Rule 46. The batsman becomes a Base-Runner
1.When he makes a fair hit.
2.When seven balls have been called by the Umpire.
3.When three strikes have been declared by the Umpire.
4.When a balk has been called by the Umpire.
5.When he is given his base as provided in Sec 8., Rule 48.

3 strikes and you're...on first base?!?

seagull wrote:Sounds like the Skankees need a pitching coach.

Yankees re-sign pitching coach Larry Rothschild: What it means

Updated on October 7, 2016 at 5:50 PM Posted on October 7, 2016 at 5:49 PM


By Brendan Kuty

bkuty@njadvancemedia.com,

NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

NEW YORK -- The Yankees re-signed pitching coach Larry Rothschild to a one-year deal, the team said Friday.

Let's break it down:

1.) Short-term: The length of the deal is interesting. The contracts of manager Joe Girardi and general manager Brian Cashman each expire next year, too. Coincidence? Me thinks not. Then again, he's also 62 years old. Maybe he wants just one more year before calling it quits.

2.) Cashman: The GM said in his year-end press conference Wednesday that he didn't want to make changes to the coaching staff. So Rothschild has Cashman's confidence. This wasn't strictly an ownership move.

3.) Successes: You could call Rothschild's work with several pitchers success stories. The ones that stand out? The recent CC Sabathia; Nathan Eovaldi's splitter, Adam Warren's versatility, Brandon McCarthy in late 2014 and getting through Andy Pettitte's velo drop. Yankees pitchers have often credited Rothschild's encyclopedic knowledge of them the moment they even join the team, with the coach often immediately having an impact on them mechanically.

4.) Failures: For whatever reasons, Rothschild wasn't able to unlock the mystery of Michael Pineda or get Luis Severino comfortable with his changeup again. On one hand, that's his job -- to fix pitchers. On the other hand, Severino seemed to simply refuse to throw his changeup while Pineda's long-time command issues clearly don't suggest that there's a quick fix out there for him. Ivan Nova seemed to find it once he left the Yankees, too, but that could also be a product of pitching the National League and in a bigger park.

5.) Final thoughts: Girardi leans heavily on Rothschild. It shows in how often he references needing to check with Rothschild on various pitching matters in spring training and throughout the season. It's likely that Girardi wanted him back, too. With Cashman, Rothschild and Girardi each in the final years of their contracts, if things torpedo early in 2017, there could be many different faces in important places in the Bronx.

Olson and Goody were discovered by Callaway. Miller did pretty well while he was in New York!

Hard to believe that the Indians are only ONE game behind the Dodgers in wins, which would give us home field advantage in the WS.

We've won 3 more and lost 2 fewer games than the Astros.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/standings/_/group/overall

For reasons unknown, Mike Clevinger assigned to the postseason bullpen. Tomlin the slow-thrower or Salazar the oft-injured will be the 4th starter.

J.R. wrote:Hard to believe that the Indians are only ONE game behind the Dodgers in wins, which would give us home field advantage in the WS.

We've won 3 more and lost 2 fewer games than the Astros.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/standings/_/group/overall

You are assuming that LA will win the NL Title.

Uncle Dennis wrote:

J.R. wrote:Hard to believe that the Indians are only ONE game behind the Dodgers in wins, which would give us home field advantage in the WS.

We've won 3 more and lost 2 fewer games than the Astros.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/standings/_/group/overall

You are assuming that LA will win the NL Title.

Just pointing that out, since they have the most wins in the NL. If anyone makes it to the WS, we would have more wins. BUT I guess we shouldn't assume the Indians will be in it, either!