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Indians drop cream alternate jerseys, continue to phase out Chief Wahoo logo

The team will now wear their red block C hats with their blue jersey tops during home games

Mike Axisa

Dec 13, 2016 • 1 min read

The Cleveland Indians continue to phase out the Chief Wahoo logo.

According to Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Indians dropped their cream alternate jerseys following the 2016 season, but will keep the red block C hat. That hat will now be used with their blue jerseys.

From Hoynes:

Clubhouse manager Tony Amato said the Indians won't have an alternative jersey until 2018 after retiring the cream jerseys last season. They will, however, retain the red caps from the cream uniforms and wear them with their blue tops at home in 2017.

So, to recap,

the cream alternate jerseys are going away:

The Indians are doing away with their cream alternate uniforms.

The red hat with the block C will remain, however, and will instead be used with this blue jersey during home games in 2017.

The Indians will no longer wear Chief Wahoo hats with their home blue jerseys.

That means fewer appearances for the blue Chief Wahoo hat. The logo will remain on the sleeve of the blue home jerseys, however.

The Indians wore their Chief Wahoo hats throughout the entire 2016 postseason. Traditionally, the starting pitcher gets to pick the team's uniform for that day's game, and it worked out that Chief Wahoo was on their hat for all 15 games in October.

Cleveland has been gradually phasing out the Chief Wahoo logo in recent years. The Cleveland Scene, a weekly publication, will propose some team nickname alternatives for the Indians this week.

A fan in Toronto tried to have the Chief Wahoo logo banned during the ALCS, and commissioner Rob Manfred said he plans to meet with the Indians to discuss the logo's future this offseason.

F*ck it. Change the name to the Cleveland Block Cs

Why have a nickname? Just call us Cleveland. No logos! Just the block "C" if we need a logo.

This is not quite on point, but it's an interesting aspect of life that is apparently unique to Cleveland. A newspaper article now a book on how we speak differently in America notes that only in Cleveland do we have tree lawns. In fact it says that "tree lawns" in Cleveland are so distinct that it may be the most predictive term for anywhere in America.
I assume you guys [not yins, not ya'll, not you all] who were born in Cleveland all call the grass between street and sidewalk the "tree lawn" and I assume that those of you who live anywhere else on the planet now find that none of your local colleagues use that term? I'm only 70 miles away in Youngstown and no one here's ever heard of tree lawns.

Never heard of it !

Heard that in Wooster and Orrville along with Devil Strip. Local governments preferred the "tree lawn"

Also if any part of the body gets hit while in the strike is an immediate dead ball and called a strike. If the batter gets hit while swinging the bat, it is also a dead ball strike. If the ball hits the hand while holding the bat and not in the strike zone, that is a hit by pitch and a part of the bat strike. I remember a game that an Indian was hit while checking his swing. There was a long delay in the playing action (injury?) and when they went to restart Gardenhire appealed the check swing and the screwball ump at 1st called it a strike and had an impact on the game but that is all I remember.

Cleveland Indians sign a former Blue Jays first baseman -- Chris Colabello, not Edwin Encarnacion


CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Indians have signed that 33-year-old first baseman who previously played for the Toronto Blue Jays.

No, not Edwin Encarnacion. The Indians inked Chris Colabello to a minor-league pact that includes an invitation to spring training in Goodyear, Arizona.

Colabello has spent parts of four seasons in the big leagues with the Twins and Blue Jays. His standout season came in 2015, when he posted a .321/.367/.520 slash line, with 15 home runs and 19 doubles in 101 games. In 2016, he served an 80-game suspension for a violation of the league's joint drug prevention and treatment program.

He owns an .866 OPS across 352 minor-league games during his career and a .740 OPS over 225 major-league contests.

The Massachusetts native played in the independent leagues from 2005-11 before he latched on with the Twins. Colabello, who also lived in Italy for part of his childhood, attended Assumption College, but went undrafted.

Colabello has already declared his intention to play for Italy in the World Baseball Classic in March.

The Indians, at the moment, have an opening at either first base or designated hitter. They have, however, been linked to Encarnacion and Mike Napoli, who slugged a career-high 34 homers for the Tribe last season.

Colabello appeared in only 10 games for Toronto last season. He batted just .180 with a .536 OPS in 40 contests for Buffalo, their Triple-A affiliate.

I really hope that doesn't mean that the Indians have given up on signing an established hitter.

He was a solid 2-29 in his major league time in 2016 with a nice OPS of 225.
Indians' press release mentioned the suspension but left out his 2016 on-field performance.
You may have noticed that they disclose his career minor league stats but not 2016 in the minors, which when you take a look is not a heck lot more impressive than his 10 games with the parent club:
134-14-25-11 no doubles, 5 homers. Slash line: 180/248/288.

No I don't think the Tribe is counting on this guy to replace Napoli. Maybe he's insurance for the Clippers if they have to DFA Aguilar to make room for some addition to the 40-man roster.

Oh, Goody!

Cleveland Indians acquire right-handed reliever Nick Goody from New York Yankees

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- If Nick Goody is half as good as the last reliever the Indians acquired from the Yankees, Chris Antonetti ought to send Brian Cashman a thank you note.

Cleveland obtained Goody, a 25-year-old right-hander, from New York on Tuesday in exchange for a player to be named later or cash considerations.

Five months ago, the Indians swapped four prospects for southpaw Andrew Miller, who proceeded to post a 1.49 ERA, with seven walks and 76 strikeouts in 48 1/3 innings (including the playoffs) with the Tribe.

Goody isn't quite as seasoned as Miller, but he has produced some eye-popping numbers at the minor-league levels. He has only 34 big-league appearances to his name. Last season with New York, he logged a 4.66 ERA across 29 innings.

Goody owns a 2.19 ERA, with 13 strikeouts per nine innings, during his minor-league career. The last two years at Triple-A, he boasts a 1.64 ERA, with 60 strikeouts and only 11 walks and 24 hits allowed over 44 innings.

The Yankees' sixth-round selection in the 2012 amateur draft, Goody has one minor-league option remaining. Goody had Tommy John surgery in April 2013. New York designated him for assignment on Dec. 15 to clear a roster spot for Aroldis Chapman, who signed a five-year deal with his old team.

The Indians' 40-man roster is now at capacity.

The club could have some competition in filling out its bullpen during spring training. Miller, Cody Allen, Bryan Shaw, Dan Otero and Zach McAllister, barring any unforeseen moves, are all but locks. That could leave at least two spots for Goody, Tim Cooney, Edwin Escobar, Shawn Armstrong, Perci Garner, Joe Colon, Kyle Crockett, Austin Adams and anyone else the team throws into the mix before the beginning of April. The team non-tendered Jeff Manship earlier this offseason, making the right-hander a free agent.

This Goody pick up looks interesting. His minor league stats look like he may help replace Feyereisen and Heller, two righty relievers we included in Miller trade. Goody is more ready for major league action.

Plenty of strikeouts, maybe the same kind of reliever as the two we swapped to the Yankees? I'll look for a scouting report.