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I'd be very surprised if the playoffs count toward his limits, but it all depends on the precise terms of the contract. I can answer that to most questions!

The theme of this post-waiver trade deadline has been “old friends.” The Blue Jays reacquired catcher Dioner Navarro on Aug. 27 as the play for a division title, and the Indians on Wednesday brought back outfielder Coco Crisp from the Athletics for lefthander Colt Hynes, who spent less than a month in Cleveland’s organization this time around

ATHLETICS ACQUIRE
Colt Hynes, lhp
Age: 31

A 31st-round pick out of Texas Tech in 2007 by the Padres, Hynes has been traded or sold five times since October 2013, and had only joined the Indians on Aug. 3 when he was purchased from Toronto. He’s had some minor league success as a middle reliever, with just 18 saves in 456 minor league appearances.


INDIANS ACQUIRE
Coco Crisp, of
Age: 36

Ten years after he was traded to Boston, Crisp returns to the Indians as they make a postseason push. He fits because of the injury to left fielder Michael Brantley and because center fielder Abraham Almonte is ineligible for the postseason because of a drug suspension he served earlier this year.

Once an above-average center fielder, Crisp is workable in center and now rates as an average left fielder in terms of Defensive Runs Saved. He has hit well in clutch situations, batting .345 (39-for-113) with runners on base and .424 (28-for-66) with runners in scoring position. He has approximately $2 million remaining on his $11 million contract this season, with a $13 million 2017 option that will most certainly not be exercised.

Reading the PD story reminded me of trades long past. I can't even remember of the name of that good LH pitcher Finley who dealt to the Cards for Crisp and 1B Luis[?] Garcia.

And then the great collection of talent we acquired when we sent Crisp to the RedSox including No. 1 prospect and later perennial all-star Andy Marte, not to mention Kelly Shoppach. But we also included Josh Bard [part of a haul from Phillies along with Jason Donald and etc for etc; this history can go back forever] and David Riske -- Riske might be the best of all that bunch

civ ollilavad wrote:Reading the PD story reminded me of trades long past. I can't even remember of the name of that good LH pitcher Finley who dealt to the Cards for Crisp and 1B Luis[?] Garcia.

And then the great collection of talent we acquired when we sent Crisp to the RedSox including No. 1 prospect and later perennial all-star Andy Marte, not to mention Kelly Shoppach. But we also included Josh Bard [part of a haul from Phillies along with Jason Donald and etc for etc; this history can go back forever] and David Riske -- Riske might be the best of all that bunch

Thought Riske was the next Bob Feller when I saw him in ST one year and watched him record 3 Ks on 9 pitches.

It's been 11 years since Coco was on our team, so it's not surprising that none of his former teammates are still here, and most have retired. Here is the roster from 2005:

Pitchers

63 Rafael Betancourt
56 Fernando Cabrera
50 Jason Davis
39 Scott Elarton
36 Jeremy Guthrie
46 Bob Howry
31 Cliff Lee
59 Matt Miller
34 Kevin Millwood
53 Arthur Rhodes
54 David Riske
52 CC Sabathia
47 Scott Sauerbeck
30 Brian Tallet
32 Kazuhito Tadano
37 Jake Westbrook
26 Bob Wickman

Catchers

44 Josh Bard
41 Víctor Martínez

Infielders

20 Ronnie Belliard
17 Aaron Boone
23 Ben Broussard
12 Alex Cora
48 Travis Hafner
11 José Hernández
8 Jeff Liefer
2 Jhonny Peralta
7 Brandon Phillips
15 Ramón Vázquez

Outfielders

1 Casey Blake
10 Coco Crisp
9 Jason Dubois
9 Jody Gerut
16 Juan González
38 Franklin Gutiérrez
38 Ryan Ludwick
24 Grady Sizemore

Other batters

25 Ryan Garko

Manager

22 Eric Wedge

Coaches

25 Buddy Bell (bench)
29 Jeff Datz (first base)
4 Luis Isaac (bullpen)
33 Eddie Murray (hitting)
35 Joel Skinner (third base)
43 Dan Williams (bullpen catcher)
57 Carl Willis (pitching)

They had a very good September (with 17 wins and 9 losses), and went into a season-closing series with the Chicago White Sox with a chance to tie the White Sox for the division lead, but lost three close games to finish 6 games behind the White Sox, who were the eventual World Series winners.

On June 7, 2005, Tim Lincecum was drafted by the Indians in the 42nd round of the 2005 Major League Baseball draft, but did not sign.

Juan González had one at-bat that season.
No Japanese team drafted Tadano due to a gay porn video scandal; he ultimately left Japan, and the Indians drafted him.

Remember most of those names although wasn't Matt Miller on the Cavs last year?

Roster move:

Percy Garner, RHP, added to 40 man and 25 man roster, 18 consecutive shutout innings. Veteran of not much quality.
Armstrong temporarily optioned to Lake County. Will return in a couple days.

Yandy says put.

Garner, age 27, was Phillies 2 round pick in 2010. Not sure if injury or incompetence turned him into a minor league free agent 5 years later. If I am so inspired, I will look in my BA prospect books to chart his downfall.

I wouldn't say Garner is not quality. He didn't make it as a starter for the Phillies. The Indians picked him up last year, moved him to the bullpen, and he has done a great job ever since. Lot's of guys have become quality relievers after failing as a SP. There have been some people who follow the minors on Twitter that have been asking for his call up for a little while now. He has 2 plus pitches, a fastball that sits 95 to 98 and a good curve.

This year he had 1.94 ERA at Akron with a WHIP of 0.94, then went to Columbus and posted a 1.63 ERA with a 0.94 WHIP.

Hoping this position change continues being aces for quite a while.

OK, we'll see. Not much of a debut.

Indians have apparently avoided any possibility of having Yandy Diaz available for the playoffs. I think he might still be available if they move Dylan Baker unto the 60-day DL but I have no idea why they never did that heretofore. And why they leave Cowgill on the 40-man roster escapes me too, but they certainly understand all the roster rules and maybe there's something clever in the offing.

They will be able to bring Yandi up when the rosters expand right? Give him is overdue cup of java.

They will have to add Yandy to the 40 man roster which means removing someone from that list. That should be easy if they deem Collin Cowgill replaceable.

Thanks Civ!

Wow, only 4 games in the MLB today. Can't recall the last time that has happened!