Q&A: Chris Antonetti on the Indians’ roster, trade plans, the bullpen and Jason Kipnis
By Zack Meisel Jun 20, 2018 4
The amateur draft came and went. Now, the primary focus of the Indians’ front office is the trade deadline, which sits less than six weeks away.
The bullpen, even with the recent emergences of Neil Ramírez and Oliver Perez, needs assistance. The bottom half of the lineup could use another steady bat. There’s work for Chris Antonetti & Co. to do over the next couple of months to fortify the Indians’ roster.
On Wednesday morning, Antonetti sat down with reporters and discussed the first half of the season, the team’s approach to the trade deadline and more.
What have you made of the bullpen turnover, with all of the injuries and inconsistency?
Any time you go through a season, you have to expect that you’re going to encounter some adversity and things are not going to go as planned. It’s one of the reasons we try to pay particular attention to depth within an organization and why sometimes some of those minor league signings or low major league singings in the offseason that may not seem significant, can end up having a meaningful impact on a team. This season, we’ve had some unexpected performances and a substantial amount of injuries in the bullpen that we’ve had to withstand. I’ve been encouraged by the way we’ve pitched over the last few weeks and to have a little bit more stability in the bullpen has been good to see and see guys settle into some roles.
Is Andrew Miller still throwing bullpen sessions?
Yes. He still has to go through a progression to get back to game activity, and he’s not quite there yet.
Will he need a minor-league rehab stint?
I think so. Given the amount of time he’s missed, when he’s ready, we’ll transition him by having him do a rehab assignment. How long and how many, we don’t have any idea yet. I would expect that he will pitch in minor league games at some point.
How pleased have you been with Mike Clevinger’s development this season?
It’s been one of the great storylines of our season so far is Clev’s continued development and maturation as a pitcher. Another great example of it last night for him to get into some trouble early, pitch out of it and then pitch really deep into a game. And I think he’s starting to become much more efficient with his pitches, where I think we saw last year he maybe in the fifth inning had a lot of deep counts, he’s getting close to 100 pitches. Not able to pitch deeper into games. With his mindset being maybe a little more aggressive throughout the game, he’s able to have more efficient plate appearances and pitch deeper into games. It’s been really great to see. He’s been a huge presence in our starting rotation.
Is there concern about the workload the starting pitchers have taken on?
It’s a conversation we continue to have. I think the good news, as Tito shared with you, is that our guys condition to do that. And so, they’re in a good spot. But it’s something we’ll continue to be mindful of as we go through the season. So, one of the things we look at in addition to just pitch count is how do guys respond in their recovery after they start. How does their body feel? What level of fatigue do they have. And then we also look for other markers of fatigue while they’re pitching. So far, guys have maintained really good strength levels and have been able to maintain their condition. But, its something we’re cognizant of and we would like to manage maybe a little bit better moving forward. And hopefully now that we have a little more continuity in our bullpen that’s an option for us to do.
Carlos Carrasco exited Saturday’s game after being struck by a line drive, but X-rays revealed no structural damage. (Jason Miller/Getty Images)
How is Carlos Carrasco doing?
He’s doing well. Thankfully we avoided a — it was a big scare. Because it could have been a lot worse. He still has some swelling, not unexpectedly. He got hit pretty good on the arm. But no damage to the bone or the joint. Now it’s just a question of getting the swelling out of there and then building back up a throwing program from there. But, he’s doing well.
Has the recent bullpen improvement reduced your need to seek relief help via trade?
I don’t think so. I think this time of year we will always be looking for ways to improve our team In the years in which we’re in contention, I think that’s been the way we’ve operated in the past and that’s how we’ve continued to operate this year. Really since the day after the draft, the intensity and frequency of trade conversations have picked up and we’re actively seeking ways where we can improve the team. Whether that’s in the bullpen or elsewhere.
Was Kelvin Herrera an option?
I won’t get into specific guys. But I think it’s safe to say that we’ve been aggressive in looking for ways to improve the team. And if there are guys that are out there that might be available, we’re exploring it.
Do you think this team will fare better in the second half, as has been the case the last couple of years?
We don’t plan for that. We try to win as many games as quickly as we can, as frequently as we can. It’s encouraging though that we do have a backdrop in that this group of guys under Tito has typically played its best baseball in the second half, but there’s urgency every day to try to win a game. The good news is despite maybe us not playing as well as we collectively could as a group, we’re still in first place in our division and have a lead on some of the other teams. Now, that doesn’t mean anything moving forward, but what it means is today the opportunity that we have is that we haven’t dug ourselves a hole. So, that’s at least the encouraging sign.
With a few of your relievers eligible for free agency at the end of the year, how do you weigh looking for short-term options versus players under control for multiple years?
As we always approach opportunities to acquire players, we try to take a multi-year approach. It was evident in our trades in 2016. We targeted players that could have an impact beyond just that season. Now, sometimes those players aren’t available and you can’t align on value and you end up trading for guys like we did last year with Joe Smith or getting Jay Bruce late. That’s just the opportunity that was available to us. We’ll explore both. We’ll explore guys that are pending free agents, but we’ll also be active in trying to acquire players that could impact not only this season but our teams moving forward.
How important have Neil Ramírez and Oliver Perez been?
Really important. Those guys have at least given Carl [Willis] and Tito some options to go to late in the game and have pitched in some high-leverage situations and have had success doing it. So, hopefully that can provide some stability for us moving forward.
Have you had any discussions on contract extensions with any of your impending free agents?
Those are conversations we typically have during in offseason and in spring training, not something we usually engage in during the season. Not to say it’s a hard and fast rule, but that’s typically the way we’ve operated. We did talk with each of those guys over the course of the winter and in spring training and had some discussions with them about where we were, where we were positioned and what the future could be moving forward, but have not had those conversations during the season.
Is Trevor Bauer’s emergence an example of why you guys don’t place ceilings or timetables on players’ development?
I think there are a lot of examples out there that demonstrate how hard it is to predict what people will go on and do in the future and I think we try to have enough humility to know that. To know what someone else is capable of doing is a futile attempt, because ultimately they’re going to dictate that. Our job is to provide the best tools, environment, resources and opportunities, which is important, for those guys to succeed and flourish and be the best versions of themselves they can be. One of the things that we have always appreciated about Trevor specifically is his relentless desire to improve. No matter how well he’s done, he is seeking to be better. He wants to be the best pitcher on the planet and is relentlessly motivated to do that. And I think what we’ve seen is a continued maturation and progression as a pitcher, as a professional and as a teammate and it’s been fun to watch and be a part of.
Shane Bieber has made two starts for the Indians. (Ron Schwane/Getty Images)
How comfortable are you with Adam Plutko and Shane Bieber in the rotation for the time being?
The great thing about both of those guys is that they’ve earned their opportunity in which they’ve pitched. Adam rebounded form a tough year last year where he had some injuries and got off to a really good start this year, and maybe got back to some of the things that allowed him to be successful throughout his college career and his minor league career. Now that he’s back to doing those things, he’s seeing it can translate to the Major League level and be successful.
Shane has continued his development as a pitcher and really has thrived in every single challenge that has been put in front of him, and met that head on and proved that he’s capable of succeeding. The next thing for him is continuing his development and maturation at the Major League level.
Both of those guys have provided a great lift to us in the opportunities that they’ve gotten so far in the rotation and we confident giving them the ball going forward.
We know about Bieber’s command, but what is it about him that makes that pitching approach so effective?
I think a separator for Shane is not just that he’s in the strike zone, but that he can command the ball within the strike zone, both with his fastball and his off-speed. Believe it or not, what we’ve seen at the Major League level, he’s not quite where he’s been in the past, he’s typically demonstrated better command than he’s showed up here. Because he can really manipulate the ball, use all quadrants of the strike zone with his fastball and also has a really good feel for his breaking ball. I think what will continue as Shane gets more comfortable and gets more comfortable with the environment, the level, the ball, that command will continue to improve. Again, Shane is a guy that may not have been the most highly regarded player at the time he was chosen, but a great job by our scouts not just identifying the physical attributes of success, but also the personal attributes for success, because Shane is another one of those guys that is incredibly motivated. He has impeccable routines, he takes care of himself, he controls all of the things he can control to be the best pitcher he can be. When you have that type of commitment and mindset, it’s pretty cool to see the development that can happen, and Shane is — as good as he was when he was drafted him — he’s continued to get better and better each year. That’s a credit to his work and his mindset.
How critical is it for the player development staff to help guys like that realize their potential?
So for us to be a successful organization and have successful seasons, we have to rely on every facet of our operations to contribute. From amateur scouting, international scouting, professional scouting, all of those areas of acquisition have had an impact on our team if you look around, even on some of the recent acquisitions this winter. Then our player development staff to help those guys, once they’re in the system, develop and in the case of the major leagues, perform, and in the case of the minor leagues, continue to progress on their path to major league players. So for us to succeed and for us to have any level of sustained success, we need all of those areas of the organization to contribute.
For which affiliates will the recent draft picks play?
They’ll be spread out. Most of them will be in Arizona, where we now have two teams, and Mahoning Valley. That’s where most guys will start, there may be a few guys that at some point get to Lake County.
What have you made of the outfield, with all of the moving parts?
There’s been a lot of movement in the outfield, and we’ve had a lot of combinations of players playing out there, but we continue to think we have a good group of which to choose. We do feel like we do need to get a bit more consistency from center field and right field. Hopefully now that guys are now back, we can find a bit more continuity there. On the flip side of that, Michael Brantley has been impeccably consistent. He’s been the Michael Brantley we’re all accustomed to see when he’s healthy, and for him to not only perform at a high level, but manage the amount of volume he’s had this year and the amount of plate appearances and innings he’s played in the outfield has been a huge boost to our team.
Have you made any progress in negotiations with your top two draft picks?
Nothing specific, but our hope is that we will sign them.
How important is it for Bradley Zimmer to figure out what type of hitter he is?
That’s a really important point, and something we continue to talk with Bradley about, and as a source of conversation between our hitting people, Tito, our major-league staff, our minor-league staff, and Bradley. Because I think what we’ve seen is he’s capable of being a really effective major league player, and a good Major League hitter. We’re working with him to get back to that point. But he’s now gone through that process that, it’s one thing to talk about those things, but what type of adjustments a player might have to make at the Major League level to have success, it’s another thing entirely to experience that first hand once the league starts to know your strengths, know your weaknesses as a hitter, and tries its best to exploit those.
It’s been a rough go for Jason Kipnis this season. (Jim McIsaac/Getty Images)
Are you still confident that Jason Kipnis can return to the form he demonstrated in the past?
I believe he can be the player we’ve seen in the past. I think we’ve seen signs of that at different points during this season, but have yet to see that consistent level of performance. I know no one is more frustrated about it than Kip, but he’s continued to maintain a good mind-set about finding a way out and finding a way to contribute to help the team win. I think we saw it again the other night, what he’s capable of doing. And hopefully he can have more nights like that.
What has been his issue in the first half?
I’m not sure it’s as easy as pointing your finger on any one thing. Offensively, he just hasn’t been able to find that same consistency. Early in the season, he was having really good at-bats, hitting the ball hard. He just hit into some bad luck. And when those things build over time, it’s human nature just to start to try to change things. When you do that, sometimes you can end up chasing your tail a little bit. So, I think the emphasis with Kip is to identify those things that allow you to be the hitter you’ve been in the past and allow you to be successful and let’s make sure we stay consistent with those. And Kip’s embraced that, but it’s a lot easier said than done.
What has allowed José Ramírez to blossom into one of the league’s most prolific hitters?
I think José never gives away an at-bat. Every single at-bat that he’s up there, he is competing and finding a way to try to get a pitch to hit and hit it hard somewhere. And some of the skills that we had seen in the minor leagues with him — just a good ability to put the ball in play, manage the strike zone, when he swings, he very rarely misses — those same attributes are now playing out at the Major League level with more power behind it. So now, not only is he putting those balls in play, but he’s hitting balls hard somewhere.
You guys value your catcher defense, but how beneficial is it when Yan Gomes is hitting the way he has this season?
Well, when we’re at our best as a team, we’re getting those contributions throughout our lineup. Tito talks about it all the time, about keeping the line moving. And when you have guys that are hitting towards the bottom of the lineup, or that second half of the lineup, contributing the way Gomes has, it just makes it that much more difficult for a pitching staff to navigate its way through it. So, when Yan or Roberto can have nights like they have the past few, that adds an entirely different element to our team and makes us that much more difficult to get through nine innings without us scoring.
— Reported from Cleveland