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Re: General Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 12:33 pm
by rusty2
All 3 strikeout about 33% of the time.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:31 pm
by TFIR
for me to trade either Carrasco or Salazar it would take both of them.
I'm with ya here HB.

For Carrasco, I'd want all three actually.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:34 pm
by TFIR
While looking for info on Soler, came across this:


Jorge Soler - OF - Cubs

Jorge Soler belted a two-run homer and reached base in all four plate appearances in Monday's NLDS Game 3 victory over the Cardinals.
Soler drew a walk in each of his first two plate appearances, singled and scored in the third and then extended the Cubs' lead with a longball in the sixth.

After not starting the Wild Card Game or Game 1 of the NLDS, Soler has now reached base in all nine of his plate appearances in the series and has gone deep twice. The Cubs smashed six home runs in the game.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:26 am
by civ ollilavad
Soler . . . reached base in all nine of his plate appearances in the series and has gone deep twice
That kind of offense if repeated on a regular basis would be a pretty nice boost. But I'm still not interested in trading Carrasco for anyone. Maybe Salazar if we can count on his arm injuries recurring.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:14 pm
by Hillbilly
CBS Sports' Jon Heyman is reporting that trade talk for the Reds' Todd Frazier is really starting to heat up.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:35 pm
by civ ollilavad
involving us or someone else?

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:14 pm
by TFIR
Cleveland Indians -- Grade: D

Indians Offseason goals: Bats, outfielder, first baseman.

Key acquisitions to date: Collin Cowgill.

The Indians needed to improve the bottom half of their lineup, and all they have to show for that is Cowgill. They need to find a way to utilize the farm system to trade for some major league-ready bats and hold onto all of their young starting pitchers.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:10 pm
by civ ollilavad
actually we got Joey Butler who's probably a little more useful. I think that might push up to a D+,

And then are Robbie Grossman and Shane Reynolds who don't count for much.

But when you look at those monster deals some teams are making it's clear the Indians are in a different league.
[But there is certainly some excessive millions floating around with nothing better to day than overpay for journeymen]

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:20 pm
by civ ollilavad
But here it says that the Giants got Butler, and the Indians were miffed

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid= ... 6833&hl=en

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:52 pm
by TFIR
Todd Frazier - 3B - Reds

Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports that the Indians, White Sox, Royals, and Dodgers are all interested in a possible trade for Reds third baseman Todd Frazier.

We've heard most of these teams before, as CBS Sports' Jon Heyman reported on Monday that the Indians and White Sox "seem most heavily involved." The Reds are willing to discuss anybody this winter and Frazier might be their best trade chip at this point.

The 29-year-old slugged 35 home runs this past season and is under team control for two more seasons.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 2:55 pm
by TFIR
OK, a right handed, power hitting, third baseman. That checks all 3 boxes for things the team desperately needs.

So I would trade Bauer for him in an instant.

I would hesitate, but then trade Salazar for him. Would be painful but it takes pain to get something like a Frazier.

Not Carrasco, at least not straight up. Would need more, but of course the devil's in the details so that probably would never fly.

There are also the intangibles. We all know Frazier would instantly be the face of this organization. Maybe the co-face with Brantley, but Michael is the quiet guy.

So yeah, that's my take.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:14 pm
by civ ollilavad
since I don't know anything about the National League, I don't know who this guy is, but his stats look good. The only baseball Frazier I'm aware of is Clint. I also recall Walt but he played a different game.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:44 pm
by civ ollilavad
Reds fans sure look irate about trading Frazier. Is this guy the next Rocky Colavito or something?

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:31 am
by civ ollilavad
So Pete keeps betting on baseball and continues to deny established facts about his betting years back. Quite a hitter, a little lacking in some other qualities.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:19 am
by TFIR
Reds fans sure look irate about trading Frazier. Is this guy the next Rocky Colavito or something?
Frazier is kind of like the present day Sean Casey in that he has that "mayor" personality. Everyone loves this guy.

Personally, I do think the Tribe would deal a starting pitcher for him instantly, EXCEPT he has only 2 more years of team control. They might like to know how open he is, right NOW, to an extension. It's their style.