No one here....I guess me....was blaming Obama for the Hostess demise.

Some might look askance at the assorted unions who would not agree to a deal with a company that was in bankruptcy from what I understand. Some might note the lack of government intervention to save the 18,000 jobs when our current White House has done same before.

Other than an occasional pull of Wonder Bread off the shelf when the price was right relative to the other options, I haven't had a Hostess product in decades.

Remember the old Wonder Bread slogan?

"Helps build strong bodies 12 different ways"

I do have good thoughts of the many faces of Hostess corporate past as they had a large bakery in Akron OH. It was a fine morning when the winds and atmosphere brought the fragrance of baking bread, and not the factory chimney fragrances of "The Rubber Capital of the World."


For the record, I always thought Twinkies paled in comparison to a Mickey's Banana Flip.

Mallo Cups, Mickey's Banana Cakes and Good & Plenty were my sweet junk food faves when I used to partake.

Does this mean we can't call them the Minnesota Twinkies anymore?

No, I think it means all the more!

someone will buy the brands that sell in the Hostess bankruptcy. Twinkies are not dead yet.

But I could swear I've been reading that the economy has been on a substantial upswing there. Evidently thriving auto manufacturing and satellite industries, along with a natural gas drilling and fracking boom have lifted the local economy there?

I don't know- maybe someone closer could verify or deny this.

Correct on all points. GM and Chrysler saved by the socialist was a big boost. Gas drilling is boosting towns in the southeast. Here in Youngstown manufacturing plants are opening and expanding more than in decades due to demand for pipe etc for drilling. A small amount of high tech. Youngstown is host to a national center on additive manufacturing. Kasich claims credit for the uptick on his watch but denies it happened on Obama's watch; kind of a difficult combo to sell.

Thanks Civ.

That "local report" was as sugar and chemical laden as a Twinkie or Youngstown rolled and twisted Ho Ho....

Al Franken with a satellite dish on his back for those remembering his SNL days?

Sorry Civ, I know you are an organization fan and pay attention to the minor leagues for all of us here.

And likely you pay more attention to our minor leagues than Mark Shapiro and/or Chris Antonetti.

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Here is an article from the Youngstown paper this week:


http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/nov/17/j ... up/?mobile


Jobs added but jobless claims go up


Published: 11/17/12 @ 12:00

Staff report

columbus

October was a positive month for Ohio with 13,900 jobs added in the state and 10,000 fewer people unemployed.

The state’s unemployment rate is 6.9 percent for the month, down from 7.1 percent in September, according to figures from the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services released Friday. The unemployment rate in October 2011 was 8.3 percent.

Sizable employment gains for the state for the month were found in five areas: service, 16,000; business services, 7,300; government, 5,200; educational and health services, 3,400; and other services, 3,100. Other services include positions in industries such as automotive, appliance repair, dry-cleaning services and working for professional, civic, religious or other organizations

There were job losses in Ohio in October in trade, transportation and utilities, 3,800; goods-producing industries, 2,100 and manufacturing, 2,200. In addition, there were 200 fewer mining and logging jobs in the state.

Despite the positive news coming from the state, George Zeller, a Cleveland-based economist, states the picture isn’t positive when looking at new unemployment claims, which are released every Thursday.

“Ohio suffered a substantial relapse last week as new unemployment claims increased sharply throughout Ohio in the new data for the first week in November 2012,” he said.

“Those increases took a further turn for the worse in the new data today for the second week in November. Some of that increase was likely storm-related, but the increase was very large and alarming.”

The state has had 12-straight weeks of increasing new unemployment claims, Zeller said.

“It is now known that improved Ohio data during the last three weeks in January and the first week in February were false-positive indicators of improvement that were not caused by the end of job destruction in Ohio,” he said.

The improvements were caused instead by large seasonal distortion that is always present in January data, Zeller said.

The goal is to measure the point where Ohio’s recessionary contraction in the labor market from the last decline comes to an end, he said.

As one who works daily with all types of businesses in NE Ohio I can tell you that the last year has been the best employment year in a long time.

TFISC, I thought you gave up on Cleveland because you were so more enlightened then their citizens.

Or was that " white lightning" , Otis ?

rusty2 wrote:As one who works daily with all types of businesses in NE Ohio I can tell you that the last year has been the best employment year in a long time.

TFISC, I thought you gave up on Cleveland because you were so more enlightened then their citizens.

Or was that " white lightning" , Otis ?

Rusty, I had no idea you were a Kool-Aid mixer.

Keep filling your cheeks with those acorns !

Another single shooter myth busted:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... ead=263916

I've not been keeping up minute to minute with these gun law moves since Newtown.

I'm just realizing the new New York law limits a magazine to just seven rounds. Seven rounds?? As best I know, I believe that makes most semi automatic Glocks illegal to own under their new law.

Does anyone make a 7 round magazine?

If under any situation my wife needs to pick up my gun and keep firing, I want those full 15 rounds as defense to comp for adrenaline flowing user error against the perpetrator.

There are now over One Million private citizens legally permitted to carry concealed weapons here in Florida.

Maybe we should have a "Million Person March", or something.

Harry Callahan didn't need 7 shots.

Harry Callahan: I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire six shots or only five'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, i kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?

seagull wrote:Harry Callahan didn't need 7 shots.

Harry Callahan: I know what you're thinking. 'Did he fire six shots or only five'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, i kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a .44 Magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well do ya, punk?

I love the Clint Eastwood note, Seagull.

Facts are, the world has changed since those now vintage theater years, and the perps are way more armed and rehearsed in their shooting.

If it was me, one on one, I'll take the six shooter for defense.

If my wife is involved, I want more bullets in the gun.


15 bullets is common for a Glock firepower repertoire.

(all the little starlets who appear on talk shows and mention they own guns usually mention having a Glock in their repertoire)

(remember "Family Affair" and Mr. French and Uncle Bill?........."fat fat the water rat, 15 bullets in his hat?")

Some Glocks will be able to hold 17 rounds.

For me, 15 rounds is sufficient for smart family defense.

My wife and I spent Thanksgiving with our youngest kid and his "long time" girlfriend of two college years at her parents house in a gated community outside of Orlando.

(no....not the Tiger Woods neighborhood)

It was a great day and weekend.

Best part was when my wife got involved in a conversation about firing guns.....something she said she had always wanted to do.....and then realized she was the only one in the room who had not been a regular firearm shooter.

That inspired my kid's girfriends' father to open up the gun safes and lockers.

He laid out much fun and serious fire power.

He loaded the tables with guns.

It was a regular Norman Rockwell Thanksgiving, I guess.

My wife was mesmerized.

As she picked up the empty weapons I double checked for emptiness upon her first grasp, she ooh'ed and awed and gave me credit for assuring her safety prowess as I innately corrected her on "straight finger" and "pointing."

I reminded her that I had a 2nd place ribbon for a 1967 poster from some kid contest with the slogan "Guns are Not for Fun."


My kid's girlfriend's father wanted to go with him for Black Friday shopping for guns at 6AM on the Day after Thanksgiving.

He touted that we could make good money with early 2012 Black Friday purchases as the values would certainly go up in Barack Obama's 2nd term.

Turns out he was right.

I elected to not go for Black Friday weapons purchases, and just made sure I was there in the morning to make love (not war) with my love.

I guess we were both winners, though I did not interview his wife on the chance he earned a double score.

He touted the profit margin we might make in a few weeks, predicting the 2nd Barack Obama administration would be balls to the wall on taking away guns.

And he predicted such, weeks before Newtown.