Re: POLL: What to do about Sizemore?
32Trade him! Maybe there's another Jeff Stevens out there beckoning for our call.
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Re: POLL: What to do about Sizemore?
34J.R. wrote:5 votes? Only 5 stinking votes?!?
That's more votes than there are Mark Shapiro fans!
(Hey, it's just recently the off season for us. Back in the early days of the ABJ Forum it was a ghost town for posters from the last game of the season until Spring Training was a detectable fragrance....)
Re: POLL: What to do about Sizemore?
36If he wouldn't negotiate a smaller contract, I'd let him go then.
That money could be spent far better, with far less risk IMO.
He was virtually useless this year.
That money could be spent far better, with far less risk IMO.
He was virtually useless this year.
"I've suffered a great many tragedies in my life....most of them never happened". Mark Twain
Re: POLL: What to do about Sizemore?
37Cleveland Indians won't rush a decision on Grady Sizemore's 2012 contract option
Published: Monday, October 10, 2011, 5:10 PM Updated: Monday, October 10, 2011, 5:11 PM
By Paul Hoynes, The Plain Dealer
Dr. Richard Steadman operated on Grady Sizemore's right knee on Oct. 3, and reportedly was pleased with the results.
ARLINGTON, Texas -- The Indians are going to take as long as possible to make a decision on Grady Sizemore's 2012 club option.
GM Chris Antonetti said he won't make the call until at or near the required deadline. Teams have until three days after the final game of the World Series to exercise club options for 2012. Sizemore, the former All-Star/Gold Glove center fielder, underwent his fifth surgery in the last three years on Oct. 3 when his right knee was operated on because of a lingering bone bruise.
Other teams are not taking as long to make similar decisions. Last week, the Dodgers declined options on Casey Blake and Jon Garland, who were injured for much of this year.
One school of thought in the Indians' front office is that Sizemore, because of his possible upside when healthy, would offer the best use of their money if they can fit it into their payroll. The Indians could also try to renegotiate Sizemore's contract.
The payroll could jump from $49 million to close to $70 million for 2012.
Dr. Richard Steadman performed arthroscopic surgery on Sizemore's knee on Oct. 3. A bone bruise had put him on the disabled list in May and July. He returned in September, but was shut down for the last the last six games of the season because of lingering pain. Dr. Steadman, according to sources, was pleased with the latest surgery and feels it should correct the bone bruise. Last year, he performed microfracture surgery on Sizemore's left knee, which cost him all but 33 games of the 2010 season.
Sizemore hit .224 (60-for-268) with 21 doubles, 10 homers, 32 RBI and 34 runs this year. The one-time 30-30 man was 0-for-2 in steal attempts.
On Twitter: @hoynsie
Published: Monday, October 10, 2011, 5:10 PM Updated: Monday, October 10, 2011, 5:11 PM
By Paul Hoynes, The Plain Dealer
Dr. Richard Steadman operated on Grady Sizemore's right knee on Oct. 3, and reportedly was pleased with the results.
ARLINGTON, Texas -- The Indians are going to take as long as possible to make a decision on Grady Sizemore's 2012 club option.
GM Chris Antonetti said he won't make the call until at or near the required deadline. Teams have until three days after the final game of the World Series to exercise club options for 2012. Sizemore, the former All-Star/Gold Glove center fielder, underwent his fifth surgery in the last three years on Oct. 3 when his right knee was operated on because of a lingering bone bruise.
Other teams are not taking as long to make similar decisions. Last week, the Dodgers declined options on Casey Blake and Jon Garland, who were injured for much of this year.
One school of thought in the Indians' front office is that Sizemore, because of his possible upside when healthy, would offer the best use of their money if they can fit it into their payroll. The Indians could also try to renegotiate Sizemore's contract.
The payroll could jump from $49 million to close to $70 million for 2012.
Dr. Richard Steadman performed arthroscopic surgery on Sizemore's knee on Oct. 3. A bone bruise had put him on the disabled list in May and July. He returned in September, but was shut down for the last the last six games of the season because of lingering pain. Dr. Steadman, according to sources, was pleased with the latest surgery and feels it should correct the bone bruise. Last year, he performed microfracture surgery on Sizemore's left knee, which cost him all but 33 games of the 2010 season.
Sizemore hit .224 (60-for-268) with 21 doubles, 10 homers, 32 RBI and 34 runs this year. The one-time 30-30 man was 0-for-2 in steal attempts.
On Twitter: @hoynsie
Re: POLL: What to do about Sizemore?
38As a small market team, we can't make that gamble. far better to pay for Cuddyer if he would come this way. We need balance in the lineup and dependability.
Re: POLL: What to do about Sizemore?
39Why the delay in the decision?
What's going to change between now and 3 days after the WS?
Can't believe the front office doesn't know what it's going to do.
What's going to change between now and 3 days after the WS?
Can't believe the front office doesn't know what it's going to do.
Re: POLL: What to do about Sizemore?
40One school of thought in the Indians' front office is that Sizemore, because of his possible upside when healthy, would offer the best use of their money if they can fit it into their payroll.
Re: POLL: What to do about Sizemore?
43I don't think it's likely he'll bounce back after major injury, minor injuries and several years of unsuccessful performance. I could vote No. 2 or No. 3, but I wouldn't go very high in my contract offer. Use the money for a RH OF who is not hurt.
POLL: Should the Indians void Carmona's contract?
44Carmona was 7-15 with a 5.25 ERA in 32 starts last season. Should the Tribe void his contract?
Since his spectacular season of 2007, when he was 19-8 with a 3.06 ERA, he has compiled a 33-48 record and 5.01 ERA.
He is signed through the 2012 season with club options for 2013 and 2014.
Here are the details:
4 years/$15M (2008-11), plus 2012-14 club options
4 years/$15M (2008-11), plus 2012-14 club options
signed extension with Cleveland 4/10/08, replacing 1 year/$0.4578M contract signed 2/28/08
$0.75M signing bonus
08:$0.5M, 09:$2.75M, 10:$4.9M, 11:$6.1M, 12:$7M club option, 13:$9M club option, 14:$12M club option
2012 option may increase by $1M based with top 5 finishes in 2010-2011 Cy Young voting
2013 and 2014 options may increase by $2M each with top 5 finishes in previous two years’ Cy Young voting
Cleveland exercised $7M option for 2012 10/31/11
placed on restricted list 1/26/12 (allegedly is Roberto Hernandez Heredia and played under assumed name)
1 year (2007), re-signed 3/07
1 year (2006), re-signed 3/06
1 year (2005), re-signed 3/05
agent: Jorge Brito
ML service: 5.125
Since his spectacular season of 2007, when he was 19-8 with a 3.06 ERA, he has compiled a 33-48 record and 5.01 ERA.
He is signed through the 2012 season with club options for 2013 and 2014.
Here are the details:
4 years/$15M (2008-11), plus 2012-14 club options
4 years/$15M (2008-11), plus 2012-14 club options
signed extension with Cleveland 4/10/08, replacing 1 year/$0.4578M contract signed 2/28/08
$0.75M signing bonus
08:$0.5M, 09:$2.75M, 10:$4.9M, 11:$6.1M, 12:$7M club option, 13:$9M club option, 14:$12M club option
2012 option may increase by $1M based with top 5 finishes in 2010-2011 Cy Young voting
2013 and 2014 options may increase by $2M each with top 5 finishes in previous two years’ Cy Young voting
Cleveland exercised $7M option for 2012 10/31/11
placed on restricted list 1/26/12 (allegedly is Roberto Hernandez Heredia and played under assumed name)
1 year (2007), re-signed 3/07
1 year (2006), re-signed 3/06
1 year (2005), re-signed 3/05
agent: Jorge Brito
ML service: 5.125
Re: Should the Indians void Carmona's contract?
45No reason to. The option for 13 and 14 is in the Indians' control. He's on the suspended/restricted list now and will stay there until he's legally able to rejoin the team. Nothing to lose by keeping him on those terms. I am assuming he's not paid while suspended; or am I wrong?