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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:10 pm
by rusty2
The Indians are expected to release Rafael Perez.
Perez is arbitration-eligible for the final time this winter and will almost certainly be non-tendered by the Indians. He appeared in just eight games last season due to a shoulder injury that required surgery in September. After making $2 million in 2012, it's possible Perez could be brought back on an incentive-based contract.


Source: Jordan Bastian on Twitter Nov 25 - 8:19 PM

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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:57 pm
by rusty2
Minor Moves: Nate Spears, Jose Flores
By Mike Axisa [November 24 at 4:11pm CST]
Here are Saturday's minor moves...

The Indians have signed infielder Nate Spears to a minor league contract, reports MLB.com's Jordan Bastian (on Twitter). The 27-year-old hit .240/.329/.396 with ten homers in 395 Triple-A plate appearances this season. Spears has made two brief cameos with the Red Sox in each of the last two years and has experience at all four infield spots as well as in the corner outfield.
The Indians have also re-signed right-hander Jose Flores to a minor league deal according to Bastian. Flores, 23, posted a 2.42 ERA with 7.9 K/9 and 3.0 BB/9 in 44 2/3 relief innings at two levels of Cleveland's farm system this year. The Mariners gave him a look as a Rule 5 Draft pick in 2011, but returned him to the Indians at the end of Spring Training.

Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#v1XymZpHIP03z4g3.99

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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:01 am
by seagull
And who said the Front Office was on a cruise. Out to lunch but not on a cruise.

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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:29 pm
by rusty2
Indians not just looking to sell
15 hours ago by KenRosenthal

Most of the talk around the Indians this offseason revolves around which players they will trade, from right fielder Shin-Soo Choo to shortstop Asdrubal Cabrera, right-hander Justin Masterson to closer Chris Perez.

Yet, according to major-league sources, the Indians aren’t limiting their search to improve, even while considering moves that seemingly will result in a step backward.

In fact, club officials are checking in on most of the available players in trades and free agency, even ones who seemingly will be out of their financial reach.

Case in point: Free-agent outfielder/first baseman Nick Swisher.

The Indians likely stand no chance of signing Swisher, who is drawing interest from a number of clubs and could emerge as a viable alternative for teams that fail to land the market’s biggest prize, Josh Hamilton.

Swisher, though, is from Parkersburg, WV, a city not far from the Ohio border. He attended Ohio State University. And, like most players, he holds new Indians manager Terry Francona in high regard.

Does any of that mean that the Indians will sign Swisher? Of course not. But just as teams act as buyers and sellers at the trade deadline, the Indians could function as both this off-season — and maybe even pull off a surprise.

— Ken Rosenthal

Re: Articles

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:13 pm
by rusty2
Indians designated LHP Rafael Perez for assignment.


Perez was expected to be non-tendered, so the move doesn't come as a big surprise. The 30-year-old southpaw was limited to just eight games this season due to a shoulder injury which required surgery in September. He'll likely have to accept an incentive-laden deal this winter.


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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:33 pm
by rusty2
Long-term plan directing Indians' offseason
GM Antonetti open-minded about ways to improve young ballclub
By Jordan Bastian / MLB.com | 11/26/12 7:06 PM ET
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CLEVELAND -- There is a lot that is still unknown about the Indians' planned approach as this offseason's Winter Meetings approach. Aside from some rumors rippling to the surface, Cleveland has remained relatively quiet.

That is because the Indians are still in the midst of assessing their direction. General manager Chris Antonetti has been working his phone, feeling out free agents and inquiring about possible trades. When baseball's decision makers convene at the Gaylord Opryand Hotel in Nashville, Tenn., next week, the pace of such conversations will increase.

"It's still developing," Antonetti said. "I think we're a lot further along in understanding the market for both free agents and trades than we were a few weeks ago. We've progressed talks on both fronts. This next week, and the week of the Winter Meetings, gives us an opportunity to hopefully bring some of those to conclusion."

The Indians ushered in a new era with a major move in October with the hiring of manager Terry Francona. Cleveland is now focused on finding upgrades for multiple spots, including the rotation, first base, left field and designated hitter. In the process, the organization is also weighing the potential benefit of parting with a few talented players.

In the aftermath of a 94-loss season -- a disappointing campaign that left the Tribe searching for explanation -- the club is willing to listen to trade proposals for players such as shortstop Asdrubal Cabrera and right fielder Shin-Soo Choo, among others. It is less about shopping their stars and more about keeping an eye on the long-term plan.

The bulk of Cleveland's top prospects reside at the Class A levels, leaving the Major League club in a vulnerable position. Trying to add more talent to a young, promising core of players is undoubtedly under consideration.

"If there are opportunities to improve the team," Antonetti said, "to improve our position moving forward, we'll be open-minded to it. But, as we've talked before, a lot of those guys who have been speculated about being traded, whether it was the Trade Deadline, or last offseason, they haven't been moved.

"Now, will we listen? On almost any player on our roster? Absolutely. If there's the right deal to be made for those guys and it makes sense for us, if we feel like it'll improve our position, then we'll do it."

The Indians already swung one trade this winter, acquiring shortstop Mike Aviles and catcher Yan Gomes from the Blue Jays in a Nov. 3 deal that sent reliever Esmil Rogers to Toronto. Bringing Aviles into the fold has fueled speculation that Cleveland is willing to trade Cabrera, who will be eligible for free agency following the 2014 season.

Cleveland's list of free agents this winter includes designated hitter Travis Hafner (after the Indians declined his $13 million club option), right-hander Roberto Hernandez (who had a $6 million club optioned declined), outfielder Grady Sizemore, first baseman Casey Kotchman, infielder Brent Lillibridge, pitcher Kevin Slowey and outfielder Vinny Rottino.

The Indians' other moves to this point have been relatively minor.

To build some depth, the Tribe signed outfielders Matt Carson and Cedric Hunter, infielders Nate Spears and Luis Hernandez and pitchers Hector Rondon and Jose Flores to Minor League contracts. The Indians also claimed right-hander Blake Wood off waivers from Kansas City.

There is surely more to come for Cleveland, which has been trying to reel in help for the outfield and first base. The club has been linked to free agents such as Kevin Youkilis, Jason Bay and Shane Victorino in various reports, and the Tribe will continue its pursuit in the coming days and weeks.

The Indians have some money to spend for the right free-agent deal.

Including potential salaries for Cleveland's arbitration-eligible players, and taking Hafner's $2.75 million buyout into account, the Indians' payroll currently projects to sit around $52 million. The Tribe operated at a budget of around $65 million in 2012 and the team can likely afford to sit in the same range for the coming season.

"We've been actively engaged in both free agent and trade conversations," Antonetti said. "Which of those will end up being completed, that's really difficult to handicap. But we're exploring both aggressively."

Jordan Bastian is a reporter for MLB.com. Read his blog, Major League Bastian, and follow him on Twitter @MLBastian. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:31 pm
by joez
Hagadone reinstated, R. Perez DFA'd by Tribe

By Zack Meisel / MLB.com | 11/28/12 10:09 AM ET

CLEVELAND --

As one familiar face rejoins the Indians' active roster, another departs.

The Indians swapped left-handed relievers on Wednesday, reinstating Nick Hagadone to the club's 40-man roster while designating veteran Rafael Perez for assignment.

Cleveland had until Friday's deadline to tender Perez a contract for the 2013 campaign before he potentially headed to arbitration. Any players who are non-tendered -- not offered a contract -- join the free-agent pool this winter.

The 30-year-old, who has been in the organization since signing as an amateur free agent in 2002, has been a key contributor to the Indians' bullpen since '06. In his first full season in '07, he posted a 1.78 ERA in 60 2/3 innings. A lanky reliever recognized for his deceptive delivery and nasty slider, Perez logged a 21-12 record and 3.64 ERA over 338 career appearances with Cleveland.

Perez pitched in only eight contests last season, however. He suffered a strained left lat muscle in late April, which shelved him until August. During his recovery, he sprained his right ankle, which stunted the progress of his rehab assignment. He didn't pitch for the Tribe the rest of the season.

Hagadone also missed a significant portion of the 2012 season. The 26-year-old compiled a 2.04 ERA in his first 17 appearances. Over his next 10 outings, though, he surrendered 14 runs on 17 hits in 7 2/3 frames, for a 16.43 ERA. He left the clubhouse following a shaky performance on July 6 with a broken left wrist, a self-inflicted injury.

The Indians optioned Hagadone to Triple-A Columbus and, as a result of his actions, placed him on the Minor League disqualified list, which prevented the southpaw from earning a paycheck or any service time for the duration of his recovery. He did not count against the 40-man roster while he was on the disqualified list. The Major League Baseball Players Association filed a grievance on Hagadone's behalf so the reliever could reclaim his salary.

To make up for missed time, Hagadone is pitching in winter ball with Aguilas of the Dominican League. He has yielded two runs (one earned) and struck out five in three appearances spanning three innings.

Cleveland filled its 40-man roster to capacity last week when the club added Chen-Chang Lee, Trey Haley, T.J. House and Tim Fedroff, rather than leave the four unprotected in anticipation of next week's Rule 5 Draft.

Re: Articles

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:39 pm
by J.R.

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:47 pm
by civ ollilavad
Hanahan could be dfa'd. Donald, too, I guess. Not sure why we are keeping Lars Anderson on the roster. His career has been worse than LaPorta's.

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:42 pm
by rusty2
Anderson still has value around baseball. Simple as that.

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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:08 pm
by seagull
Anderson still has value around baseball.
You mean there are other GMs out there reading 5 year-old scouting reports?

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:21 am
by rusty2
Yeah, it was real hard to give up a junk throwing pitcher like Wright for Anderson. Not !

Everyone is a comedian all of a sudden.

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:59 am
by civ ollilavad
Wrong about Donald. The deadline is Friday to offer arbitration or DFA. Donald is not arbitration-eligible. Of course, any player can be released if he's not under a multiyear deal. The other arbitration eligibles include Sipp and Marson as well as Hannahan.

Re: Articles

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:59 pm
by J.R.
Lots of tweeting about his comments:
http://twitter.com/search?q=mark%20shapiro&src=typd

Shapiro: "Don't Come."
By Jason Lukehart on Nov 29, 10:01am

Indians President Mark Shapiro recently said some things that are sure to rub many fans the wrong way. Are these comments a sign that frustration has gotten the best of him, or just an honest assessment of the current state of affairs?


Last week Mark Shapiro was on "More Sports with Les Levine," a program I am not familiar with. At some point during the show, Shapiro was responding to fans' e-mails, one of which came from someone asking for a reason why they ought to renew their seasons tickets for 2013. Shapiro's response was, if their only reason for coming to games was to see the Indians win, "Don't Come."

On it's face, that's a pretty crass thing to say, both as a response to a fan who has obviously paid a pretty good amount of money attending games, and as a message to the entire fan base, which hasn't seen a winning season since 2007, and has seen only two of them in the last eleven years.

Yesterday, Shapiro was asked to elaborate on that answer.

"I’m sure I could have re-stated it differently, I was definitely not happy with my response at the time. But if they listened to what I had to say in context, hopefully they will know the overall message I intended to convey."

Shapiro then attempted to provide some context.

"I told him if the sole reason, the only reason, for renewing is predicated on us winning, then they shouldn’t come. I stand by that. Baseball has to mean more than just being a fan when you win. You’re missing out. You’re missing out on what baseball is all about."

Ultimately, I agree with Shapiro on this. Winning is great, but there's a lot to like about baseball, about spending an afternoon or an evening at the ballpark, even if the Tribe ends up losing. Having a beer and a dog, sitting in the sun (or, let's be honest, bundled up in the cold), with a friend or with your kids, and thousands of other fans... If you can't enjoy that, regardless of the final score, how did you become an Indians fan in the first place?

Do you think the Tribe looks like a contender for 2013? Most Indians fans don't. Few seem to think there are realistic moves that could be made between now and Opening Day to change that. Many believe the Indians should even attempt to make the 2013 team even worse, in hopes that trading away good players will lead to a strong contender in 2015 or so.

Would you prefer a Team President who ignores the weaknesses, exaggerates the strengths, and spouts a lot of cliches about how "you just never know?" Would you like to have a front office that truly believes the current roster is only a minor tweak away from contending for the World Series? Or, would you rather have someone who's realistic about the team's current position?

There is room for debate about whether or not the current front office has done a good job of utilizing its resources to put the best possible team on the field. For too many years, key draft picks didn't turn into solid players, the return on a couple necessary trades has been underwhelming, and a couple modest free agent signings have really not panned out.

On the other hand, the most recent drafts seem to have included some more promising players, guys like Cabrera, Choo, and Santana were all practically stolen from other teams, and Grady Sizemore was signed to a great contract, but his health problems destroyed one of the most promising careers in franchise history, just as he was entering what should have been his prime.

I really like the move to bring in Terry Francona (which I don't think would have happened without Shapiro's involvement) and it's too early to say much about the team's off-season, in terms of player movement. If the moves over the next month or two don't feel like a real step in the right direction and the team continues to flounder in 2013 without any new building blocks being brought in, I'll probably turn on the current regime and hope for a change. For now, I'm still in the half-full camp in assessing their moves.

Either way, whatever direction things go in from here, give me leadership that's willing to be honest and save the sugar-coating for my breakfast cereal.

http://www.letsgotribe.com/2012/11/29/3 ... -dont-come

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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:36 pm
by J.R.
On Mark Shapiro, Not Coming, and the Credibility Problem
November 29, 2012 By Jon
One of my favorite pieces I’ve written for this site was a two-part essay about the Indians’ seeming inability to connect with their fanbase, and what I thought they should be doing about it. I wrote this back in the off-season following the smoldering failure of the 2010 season—a year in which our entire team combined to account for one more win above replacement (11.2) than Mike Trout did in five months last season (10.0).

I think the reason I liked the piece so much is that I was finally able to put into words my biggest criticism with the front office—a bunch, it should be noted, with whom I typically agree. What I came up with was that while I agreed with the front office’s decision to initiate a rebuild in 2008 and I felt necessarily bad for the amount of flak they were going to have to endure for that decision (due to financial constraints beyond their ability to control), their incessant need to explain it all over and over again in painful detail and repetition became, at least to me, a problem for them from a PR standpoint. I concluded that they needed to stop selling the rebuild altogether. People like me—baseball nuts who will give them my entertainment dollars regardless of the situation—didn’t really need the convincing; we were down with it and we would be going to games anyway. And the more casual fan—the ones who pine for the stars and excitement of the 1990s and who find it hard to engage with a team that consistently struggles to reach .500—well they weren’t going to care about Shapiro’s sob story about financial inequities, no matter how eloquently he phrased it. They had to deal with reality as it was, and move forward as honestly as they were able, without beating a dead horse.

In the end, I asked the front office to come up with a new way to communicate to the common fans. Here was how I put it back then:

[...] even more, the organization won’t be straightforward with the base. Rather than saying that, under the given circumstances, the Indians will only have a chance for three or four seasons out of every decade, they get the run-around. They get “cycle-management”. They get “back to contention A-SAP”. They get the sort of speech that you’d expect from a customer service rep at Best Buy, and nobody likes those people very much.

So even when the answer is honest, it feels otherwise.

So I wonder, from the nuts and the base alike, what would you think if Mark Shapiro and Chris Antonetti were straightforward? What if they told us that 60% to 70% of the time, their teams won’t have a chance to contend? That in every decade, we’ll have a three- or four-year period wherein championships are possible (though, of course, not guaranteed), while the other years will be about development? What if they said they wish it were otherwise, but without a salary cap, it’s the best that can be done, and they’re the best guys to do it? [emphasis added]

Well, I think we got the answer to that, didn’t we?

Last week, in an interview with Les Levine that has since gone viral, Shapiro said the following, in response to a question posed to him about why a particular fan should renew his season tickets, given the team’s ostensible inability to compete:

If you base your decision to come to the game on whether we win or lose, don’t come. You’re missing out. You’re missing out on what baseball is all about, and I’m fine with that.

So, he’s gonna try that honesty thing out full-bore, huh? I should have made it clear in those earlier pieces—perhaps in a footnote—that I….uh….I don’t work in PR. So…there’s that. Sorry Mark.

Look. I probably wouldn’t have worded it that way. But what he said ain’t exactly wrong, either. Baseball is a sport where even the best teams lose 60 games each season. If going to the ball game were all about seeing a win and tearing your hair out when they lose, NO ONE IN HER RIGHT MIND WOULD BUY SEASON TICKETS. It’s a guaranteed way to want to die, at least 60 times per year.

Shapiro’s point, and again, it’s one I largely agree with, is that we don’t go to baseball games strictly to see wins and lament losses. We go because going to ballpark is fun. And because baseball is awesome.
And because of green grass and huge flags and cold beers and hot prospects and scorecards and mascots and a thousand other things that are fun about baseball. We hope they win. We wish the system was different. We believe, like almost every team except for a few, that if everything goes just right, we’ll have a chance to win our division.

So I actually don’t think what Shapiro said was so bad. I think he’d be wise, given his position, not to tell anyone to stay away from the ballpark, but the gist of his comment is fine. Baseball is more than wins and losses. I think Dan Gilbert says the same thing to his fan base. I think Jimmy Haslem will tell you the same thing about the Browns. Buy our tickets. We’re working on building a winner, but in the meantime, come. It’ll be fun.

I think if we’re all honest about this, the bigger issue here isn’t what was said, but who said it. There is an understandable and overflowing sense of frustration with Mark Shapiro in this town. He has now torn down two lovable teams and is well on his way to tearing down a decidedly less lovable one this winter.
Cities don’t take kindly to watching their heroes shipped out of town—no matter the reasoning for it.
But even more than that, there is a sense that Shapiro—while smart enough and savvy enough to be fine baseball executive—doesn’t deserve another chance to rebuild this team. That’s just not how professional sports work: if you’re lucky, you get to guide a team through one rebuild (though as someone like Eric Mangini can attest, only if you’re lucky). You almost never get to do it more than once, and certainly not if one of your rebuilds looks as much like a failure as this current Indians one does.

It’s why, even though I can’t really think of who I’d want to run this team instead of Shapiro and Antonetti, that I still thought that after last season’s debacle it was time to move on from their stewardship. Not because they aren’t capable, but because they no longer offer a credible voice to most fans. No matter what they do (short of getting the Dolans to invest a loss in the franchise the way Illitch does in Detroit) they’ll be seen as trying to con fans into seeing a team that doesn’t deserve to be watched. No matter that most teams don’t compete for championships every year. No matter that baseball is inherently unfair economically. No matter that they proved themselves capable and competent more often than not. There is a sense among the fanbase that these guys have had their shot, and that they hoodwinked the city.

And because I didn’t see how the current front office could maintain a credible voice going forward, I was a bit shocked when the team seemed to double down on them this off-season. Terry Francona was brought aboard, with an out-clause in his contract tied to Shapiro and Antonetti’s continued employment. If they’re lucky, they’ll have to defend trading Chris Perez, Shin-Soo Choo and Asdrubal Cabrera to a city that will be wielding flaming pitchforks like you’ve never seen. And that’s if they’re lucky. If they’re unlucky, they are unable to get sufficient value for those guys and they end up with no influx of talent as their two best players and charismatic closer walk in free agency over the next two years.

Were any of that to happen under new leadership, I don’t think most of us would bat an eye. After all, new leaders are typically given a grace period to reshape rosters and philosophies, to draft new talent and take their best hacks. But the fact that the same faces are going to be giving the same tired explanations that we’ve been hearing for 15 years now? That our organizational strategy is built around hoping to screw someone on a trade, get lucky in the draft, and compete for a few years on borrowed time?

I should be clear: that strategy outlined above is the right one to take. It’s the way that small market teams have to compete, and I think Shapiro is probably better at it than most. But listening to him stumble over himself trying to be honest about it is not helping anyone. He comes off as out-of-touch and insensitive. He comes off as antagonistic towards his fan base. He comes off as a prick, even when what he’s saying is mostly true.

So I’m pretty sure that this time around I have no more advice to offer the front office on their communication strategies. It’s pretty clear that, healthy or not, this has become about the messenger. People are mad at Shapiro and his front office. They don’t trust him. They find his continued employment objectionable—a sinecure for his willingness to walk the Dolan Company Line. He can bring them a World Series winning manager on a platter—a hire that only Shapiro could’ve made and one with whom no one could possibly take issue—and we’ll find a way to be pissed off about it. He can tell us a truth so obvious and mundane that it’s painful to deconstruct, but we’ll start flamewars over it.

He can look us in the eye and tell us that going to baseball games is fun. And we’ll disagree with him.
That’s a problem. And one I won’t pretend to be able to fix.

http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2012/ ... y-problem/