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Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:14 am
by civ ollilavad
NY with risp 1-16
CLE with risp until the 12th 2-17
Good clutch pitching or bad clutch hitting, call it either way. It made for a fascinatingly frustrating game to follow; and I'm glad I only did so after the fact online.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:15 am
by civ ollilavad
Thomas with the big hit. It had to happen sooner or later and that was a good time for it.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 3:18 pm
by civ ollilavad
Looks pretty much the same as yesterday. No offense. Lousy starting pitching. Didn't expect anything from Cantillo but Williams should have been a lot better. And Sandlin has lost his knack of keeping runners stranded; he blew the game open today
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:04 pm
by civ ollilavad
Yuck, yesterday was bad, today was worse. One hit to start the game and that was it.
Expected better of Williams
And Sandlin has lost his touch at preventing inherited runners from scoing
Someone we won 1 of 3, lucky for us.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:05 pm
by civ ollilavad
This weekend Guardians are home for a not first place team, the Rangers; they had better take advantage of the opportunity or they're sunk.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:08 pm
by rusty2
Been a lot of fun this year but it is time to send Brennan, Freeman and Schneeman back to AAA. Rocchio and Bo Naylor need to be told they are next if they do not start hitting.
Hard to believe that Thomas can hit this bad. He absolutely does not actually see the ball.
Personally, in the offseason I would trade Josh Naylor if I could get any controllable starting pitcher. The Naylor boys seem to have a problem when they have any competition. Josh has had a red arse ever since the FO traded for his replacement. (Manzardo) Josh says all the right things but his hottest streak of the year was when they sent Manzardo back down. Still hard to believe that Vogt could not find one start for Manzardo at first base when he was up.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:35 pm
by rusty2
Steven Kwan 2nd half:
.213-BA/.289-OBP
Josh Naylor 2nd half:
.217-BA/.297-OPS
Andrés Giménez 2nd half:
0-HR/.584-OPS
David Fry 2nd half:
.229-BA/.297-OBP
Lane Thomas as a Guardian:
.117-BA/.209-OBP
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:57 pm
by TFIR
rusty2 wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2024 5:08 pm
Been a lot of fun this year but it is time to send Brennan, Freeman and Schneeman back to AAA. Rocchio and Bo Naylor need to be told they are next if they do not start hitting.
Hard to believe that Thomas can hit this bad. He absolutely does not actually see the ball.
Personally, in the offseason I would trade Josh Naylor if I could get any controllable starting pitcher. The Naylor boys seem to have a problem when they have any competition. Josh has had a red arse ever since the FO traded for his replacement. (Manzardo) Josh says all the right things but his hottest streak of the year was when they sent Manzardo back down. Still hard to believe that Vogt could not find one start for Manzardo at first base when he was up.
Some good takes there rusty. For sure it's time to recall Manzardo and whomever has to go just has to go. The Bo Naylor experiment so far is a failure - I like the kid's swing and we know his approach in general looked good coming into the season but it's the end of August and he has not hit. In addition to Manzo they have to think about Brito and we know Arias is tearing it up in AAA another shot for him.
Teams often go into slumps together and Jose - the leader - is in a pretty good slump himself so some of this is to be expected. But at the least I'd like to see Manzo and Arias back up.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 8:47 am
by pat graham
I agree Rusty with trading J Naylor this offseason. I know his numbers look solid, but man he has not been good. I can't believe no one mentions how bad he is defensively. I don't think he's scooped an infielders throw all season. Offensively, he swings at every pitch and pitchers know it. He is not helping protect Jose.
His body is an injury waiting to happen, so I don't believe he will receive an extension from Cleveland. Typical time for the front office to trade...year before free agency.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:13 am
by civ ollilavad
Freeman is 2-29 in August. Schneeman is not as bad as I though, 7-31 with 600 OPS but I second [third] the motion to send them back to Columbus. Arias and Manzardo are the logical replacements. Brennan has been pretty decent since he returned so'd he hold onto to him. Thomas is amazingly bad; no idea if he is historically streaking or why he has stopped hitting once he moved to Cleveland.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 10:16 am
by civ ollilavad
A longish term replacement for Bo is Cooper Ingle, drafted 4th round last year, spent a bit of 2023 and this year through a couple weeks ago in Lake County and when he left he was leading the league in hitting and on base pct. In Akron he's 7-24 with 2 doubles and a homer 7 walks and 6 strikeouts: 292/452/500\
His defense is considered somewhat behind his offense. He "has the makings of an average receiver and enhances so-so arm strength with a quick release"
they also drafted Jake Cozart, a NCState catcher in the 2nd round this year.
They are obviously keeping their options open
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 11:10 am
by TFIR
I assume Ralphy stays away from catcher as I read he is in LF now.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 12:37 pm
by rusty2
Cozart is the guy to look for in the future at staying as the catcher.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 2:13 pm
by Uncle Dennis
Way too much similarity between Thomas and Straw.
Re: GameTime!™
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2024 3:01 pm
by rusty2
Nope, Straw put the ball in play more often with the Guardians !
