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How many go-to players do we have on this team ?

Gotta say that the only reliable player we've had the entire season has been Chris Perez.
“Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is.”
-- Bob Feller

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WoW! This is awful !
“Every day is a new opportunity. You can build on yesterday's success or put its failures behind and start over again. That's the way life is, with a new game every day, and that's the way baseball is.”
-- Bob Feller

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VT'er wrote:"What's our record, Larry?"

"Twenty-nine and fifty-four!"

"Twenty-nine ... and ... fifty-four. How did we ever win twenty-nine games?"

"It's a miracle!"

"It's ... a miracle."

That's it! LOL!

To avoid a 90 loss season we need to go 18-16 from here to the end.

To avoid a 100 loss season we need 8 more wins. Tomorrow is August 28th and we've only had five wins since July 26th.

We have to about double up the tempo of past month success to avoid the laughing stock 100 loss season as an organization and fan base.

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Out of a Job, but Not Missing a Beat


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Ann Johansson for The New York Times

Scott Radinsky, who owns a skateboard park in Simi Valley, Calif., was in his first season as Cleveland’s pitching coach.




By HILLEL KUTTLER
Published: August 25, 2012



Scott Radinsky pitched for four major league teams from 1990 to 2001. A left-handed reliever who appeared in 557 games, Radinsky compiled a 42-25 record, a 3.44 earned run average and 52 saves. In 2004, he began working his way up the coaching ranks for the Cleveland Indians, serving as a pitching coach for four of their minor league teams. In 2010, he became the Indians’ bullpen coach, and this year, he was put in charge of the pitchers. But six days after a reporter interviewed him in Cleveland, Radinsky was home in California, without a job and pondering his next move. And he was being Radinsky, which means being engagingly different, as this two-week account demonstrates.



TUESDAY, AUG. 7 From the cushioned bench in the Cleveland Indians’ third-base dugout, Scott Radinsky periodically leaned forward and twisted his neck toward left field. His hurlers were engaging in pregame stretching, but Radinsky was being a real father, not a figurative one. He was monitoring his 9-year-old son — also named Scott, and wearing an Indians uniform — while he shagged fly balls.

Progressive Field was quiet, making it easy to converse. Later, Radinsky would jog to center field to check on the previous night’s starter, Zach McAllister, who had been a third-out grounder from escaping the second inning down, 2-1. Instead, an infield error led to three hits, a walk and McAllister’s departure. The ensuing 10-run inning propelled the visiting Minnesota Twins’ 14-3 rout.

Radinsky was asked how a young pitcher rebounds from deflating errors and what he had told McAllister during a mound visit. “You watched it — whatever I said didn’t matter,” Radinsky said. “You just push the reset button. It’s like the calluses you build; they help you get better.”

The Indians held the American League Central Division lead on May 28, but a prolonged slump, inexperienced starting pitching and a league-worst earned run average sent them tumbling. Still, as he spoke, Radinsky tried to project confidence in the work he had done. “I try to keep things on an upbeat level,” he said. “It’s what I like about the job: the challenge. I want to see these guys succeed.”

Radinsky grew up in California and was a third-round pick out of Simi Valley High School in 1986. That is a normal enough baseball profile, but Radinsky truly stood apart as a baseball lifer. Try to imagine other veteran arm gurus — Dave Duncan, for instance — taking on side careers as a punk-rock singer and skateboard-park owner, both of which are part of the Radinsky résumé.

In fact, as he prepared for that night’s game in glorious summer weather, he stood in both age (44) and attitude as the major leagues’ youngest pitching coach.

But just two days later, Ruben Niebla would inherit Radinsky’s job. Radinsky would be slowly driving home toward Los Angeles.

FRIDAY, AUG. 10
West of Cleveland, near Gary, Ind., Radinsky did not need Interstate 80 to clear his mind. Speaking on a phone to the same reporter with whom he had sat on Tuesday, he sounded neither angry nor consumed by self-pity over being fired 111 games into his first season as pitching coach. A quarter-century in professional baseball has inoculated him to its fickleness. Coaches sprout calluses, too.

Manager Manny Acta had interrupted Radinsky’s breakfast on Thursday to summon him to a noon meeting. Radinsky stepped into Acta’s office and saw General Manager Chris Antonetti sitting there. The gig was up.

An Indians affiliation that began with Radinsky’s final major league pitches in 2001 had suddenly ended. Acta and Antonetti shook Radinsky’s hand, wishing him well. Radinsky asked a clubhouse attendant to ship personal items from his locker, then returned to his apartment.

“We’re going to find a new team,” Radinsky said he told his son.

“Oh, cool. Can I still like the Indians?” the boy said.

“Yeah, you can.”

“Well, what’s the new team going to be?”

“I don’t know yet, buddy, but we’ll find out soon.”

“I’m totally fine, man,” Radinsky said as he talked on the phone. “I’ve never really been through this situation before.” But, he added, “I know how it works.”

He was driving alone. His family — his wife, Darlenys, the sister-in-law of Ozzie Guillen, a former Radinsky teammate; and his three children — had flown back to California from Cleveland, leaving him time to think, talk, look ahead. In other words, to be Radinsky, which is to be calm and introspective, almost beatific.

He said that he would ponder his employment options when other jobs opened after the season and that he wanted to remain in baseball. But crossing into Illinois, he had no schedule. He figured he would reach his home in Thousand Oaks within five days. But if musician friends in Denver were playing when he passed through, he might pull up a chair and linger.

“I loved it,” Radinsky continued, thinking about Cleveland. “I was surrounded by awesome baseball people. I made some good relationships.”

He said he was happy about closer Chris Perez’s two All-Star selections, Vinnie Pestano’s emergence “into one of the best setup guys in baseball” and the ex-Met Joe Smith’s career turnaround. Rising as a coach through the minors alongside left-handed reliever Tony Sipp and witnessing Sipp’s development was “the most gratifying thing in the world,” he said.

Radinsky taught pitchers “to trust in your stuff” rather than work to hitters’ weaknesses. Derek Lowe, who pitched for Cleveland this season before joining the Yankees, said, “That’s the biggest thing he tried to instill in us.” Lowe added: “He’s not a big numbers guy. We didn’t have a lot of meetings. I respected that.”

Two days before Radinsky was fired, Acta and the Indians’ president, Mark Shapiro, had lauded his competitiveness, communication skills and optimism in separate interviews. They admired Radinsky’s fortitude as someone who battled cancer while pitching for the Chicago White Sox in the 1990s.

But by then, Radinsky’s fate was probably sealed.

SUNDAY, AUG. 12 By Saturday, Radinsky had reached the Rockies. By now, he had nearly traversed Utah.

In another phone conversation, he said the cross-country drive home reminded him of concert tours he had taken as the lead singer with bands called Scared Straight, Ten Foot Pole and Pulley, his current group.

Pulley operates around baseball’s off-season and everyone else’s day job: airplane mechanic, parks department employee and crew member for another band. In high school, the band Radinsky formed eventually kicked him out early in his baseball career because he was not around enough. Now, of course, that would not be a problem.

Radinsky was happy to have a reporter tag along telephonically. Passing Illinois cornfields on Friday, he had mentioned “Field of Dreams.” His cinematic association on Sunday was “Cobb,” about the aging former Tiger’s transcontinental drive with the ghostwriter Al Stump.

Radinsky’s first major league manager was Jeff Torborg, who in his own telephone interview remembered him as “a young, aggressive athlete,” a “raw, strong, hard-throwing kid — a free spirit.”

He said Radinsky’s life “really changed” when he contracted non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma, missed the 1994 season and helped coach his high school team. “I didn’t think he’d want to stay in the game — his interests were so wide,” Torborg said. “He was never afraid. You could take him into Yankee Stadium and have him face Don Mattingly, and it would not faze him.”

MONDAY, AUG. 13 Ninety minutes from home, Radinsky said he had to shake his head at the way things had turned out. Before he was fired, his family had planned to fly home from Cleveland and then rejoin him as the Indians traveled to California to play the Angels and the Athletics. Now they would all stay put in Thousand Oaks.

But he insisted he was not feeling down as his sudden joblessness sank in. “Everything that happens is just kind of a leap on the lily pad, just another steppingstone,” he said in that fallback reflective mode of his. “Everybody moves on, everybody finds their place. That’s why life’s not a mystery.”

His earlier-than-expected off-season routine meant a three-school car pool; daily visits to Skatelab, his skating park with its own hall of fame; and band practice on Monday and Thursday nights.

Radinsky grew up using a skateboard as a means of transportation. “We’d go everywhere,” he said. “When you’re kids, it’s freedom.”

In the mid-1990s, his band played a concert in an indoor skateboard park. Which got him thinking. Less than a year later, he and a friend had opened their own and then attached a museum to it. And now it had more than 4,000 items, including Radinsky’s old skateboards.

“I can either be at the beach tonight and watch the sun go down, or have a barbecue in my backyard. I haven’t quite decided which it’s going to be,” he said as he neared his house. In some ways, it sounded better than watching the Indians.

TUESDAY, AUG. 21 Radinsky’s first week back home ended up including both the beach and barbecues and singing into a towel to exercise his vocal cords before band practice.

Family time had its limits, though. Radinsky decided to skip an outing at Dodger Stadium, saying he did not want to attend games, at least not yet.

But baseball was not far away. Radinsky said he was “waiting to see” what jobs would open up and that he would “absolutely look for a major league job first.”

“If I get fortunate to land one of those, I’ll pick up where I left off,” he added. “I got four months to do what I prepared myself eight years to do. Four months.”

He would like more.



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/sport ... wanted=all

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Rusty - I've threatened to leave many times. Not the forum, but the Tribe. Overall, I don't know much about Ocker. I just agree with his statements prior to my post. I've been loyal to a fault. But this lousy owner has really kicked us all in the arse. Now, his cablevisision may have dealt him a vicious blow, but should we as Indian fans suffer with him? Apparently we are allowing him as an individual to keep his head above water.

I would just as soon he would drown. Why drag the Indian's fans to the bottom with him. He has surrounded himself with a legion of losers. Maybe that's what the Indians should be called. Kind of reminds me of Kerry Shuttleworth. Remember him?

I had hoped we had finally arrived with Jacobs and Hart. I truly hated it when Hart left.

I just checked my stock certificate that I still have, even though worthless. I had had 100 shares, and when they were sold, I tendered 99 shares. So, my certificate is for ONE share, dated 6-23-98. Signed by Richard E. Jacobs. I guess I should put it in a frame.

I would ask this, "how many of you guys have such a memo of your relationship with the Cleveland Indians Baseball Company, Inc.?"

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Wednesday, February 24, 1999
Who is Larry Dolan? And why does he want the Reds?


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BY JOHN ERARDI
The Cincinnati Enquirer

Larry Dolan

The man who wants to buy the Reds is a sports lover, a multimillionaire and the brother of the 312th-richest person on the Forbes list.

Cleveland attorney Larry Dolan, 68, is the brother of Charles Dolan, chairman of Cablevision Systems Corp., the nation's sixth-largest cable television provider.

Larry was involved with Charles on bids for the New York Yankees, Washington Redskins and Cleveland Browns.

None of those deals ever got done.

Now Larry Dolan heads an investment group that is trying to buy controlling interest of the Reds from Marge Schott. Sources indicate the group has already executed a purchase agreement with Mrs. Schott that would pay her $65 million for 5.5 of her 6.5 shares.

Among Larry's six children are two sons — Paul, 41, and Matthew, 34 — who are both lawyers in his firm and would have had active roles in running the Browns had their father's bid been successful.

According to newspaper accounts, Larry is a multimillionaire whose wealth was largely built upon his ownership of stock in Cablevision, which Charles founded.

Cablevision owns and operates cable television sys tems and serves about 3.5 million customers in five states, with major operations primarily in the New York, Cleveland and Boston metropolitan areas.

The Bethpage, N.Y.-based company also manages entertainment, news and sports programming. That includes 50 percent ownership of Fox Sports Net, a national sports programming network that feeds most of the country's sports networks, including Fox Sports Ohio. The latter affiliate serves Cincinnati, Cleveland and Columbus.

Larry brought Cablevision to the Cleveland area in the early 1980s. He negotiated and bought the first cable TV franchises in Geauga County. He later sold them to Cablevision, which added other franchises to become the area's largest cable TV operator.

Until the 1980s, he spent most of his time as a lawyer trying cases. He represented developers, defended insurance companies and took on white-collar crime cases. He also advised companies in contract negotiations and union organizing drives.

He owns a 14-screen movie theater and an adjacent indoor golf-driving range and miniature golf course.

In the case of the Browns, the NFL was bothered that Larry would control 30 percent of the team, but ante up only $2 million of the $500 million sales price. Published reports were that Cablevision was behind Larry's 30 percent control; the league didn't like that arrangement.

Why?

Because under NFL rules, a corporation like Cablevision can't own a football team. But Charles had insisted the company had nothing to do with the brothers' bid for the team.

Charles' money did, however.

“But for my uncle's money,” Paul had said, “we wouldn't be doing this (trying to buy the Browns).”


If Larry winds up with the Reds, it wouldn't be the first time he has tried to buy a baseball club. He and Charles once talked to the late F.J. “Steve” O'Neill about buying the Cleveland Indians.

“But he wanted too much money,” Charles had said.

Larry is president and managing partner of Thrasher, Dinsmore & Dolan, a law firm based in Chardon, Ohio. He has been described in newspaper stories as a “sports lover who built his law firm winning zoning cases for developers and serving as solicitor for municipalities in Geauga County.”

Had the Dolans bought the Browns, Larry would have had majority voting control and complete management authority.

Also involved in the Dolans' group were comedian Bill Cosby, football coaching legend Don Shula and six Cleveland-area CEOs.

“If you want to be psychological about it, these (the Dolan brothers) are two 5-foot-8 guys who want to win the championship,” Cosby said.

They have both been described as low-key and unassuming.

“If nothing else happens with this application (to buy the Browns), I've had dinner with Bill Cosby,” Larry had said.

But the Dolans' $500 million offer for the Browns was thwarted early in September when MBNA Corp. Chairman Alfred Lerner outbid the Dolans by $30 million.

Cleveland Mayor Michael White endorsed the bid of the Dolan brothers, but, in the end, the number of local connections didn't matter as much as the amount of the bid.

The Dolans' extended family is a group that believes in doing things together and having fun. Larry and his sons stage a family golf tournament each year. In one, patterned after the Masters, the winner gets a jacket. Larry is an avid golfer and plays doubles tennis every week.

Charles takes each of his three brothers' families to the Caribbean on annual winter vacation trips; every night, there is a slide show of family photos.

Larry and Charles' father, Daniel J., was the son of an Irish immigrant. Daniel J. was involved in businesses, including operating a car-delivery business. But his true love was inventing. He sold a device to Ford Motor Co. that would lock the wheels of a Model T if one turned the device far enough when the car was parked.

Back in the 1930s, when Larry and Charles were growing up in Cleveland, they assembled a good-sized stash of baseball cards that increased their standing among the youths of the neighborhood.

Charles had the money to buy the cards — he had a newspaper delivery route — but it was Larry, four years younger, who increased the size of the stash most rapidly. He had what Charles referred to as “an amazing talent” for flipping cards and calling them heads or tails. This talent meant acquiring more cards, quickly, at no cost.

Larry was the jock in the family.

He played halfback on the St. Ignatius High School football team. In the 1949 Cleveland Plain Dealer Charity Game for the city championship, Larry set up one touchdown and passed for another in a 13-0 victory.

He played on the freshman team at Notre Dame, but then decided to concentrate on earning his bachelor's and law degrees. After college, he served in the Marines. He worked in the legal department at a naval air station. His most satisfying case was defending a Marine corporal charged with brutality toward Navy prisoners.

Larry unearthed mounds of character evidence on the enlisted men and discredited their testimony. He won the corporal's acquittal.

“What it taught me was the value of preparation,” he told a Plain Dealer reporter in a profile last July.

Like his brother, Charles, Larry is a diligent supporter of charitable causes. He runs in the annual 5-mile American Red Cross race at the Geauga County Fair.

More about Cablevision
Although Cablevision isn't involved in the proposed deal for the Reds, it's interesting to know some facts about it because it has been such a cash cow for the Dolan family.

Cablevision owns a controlling stake in Madison Square Garden and owns the New York Knicks professional basketball team and New York Rangers professional hockey team. It also manages the operations of Radio City Music Hall and owns “Nobody Beats the Wiz” electronics stores.

The company also owns many national programming services, including American Movie Classics, Bravo, the Independent Film Channel and Romance Classics.

In terms of financials, Cablevision had revenues of $2.2 billion during the first nine months of 1998, up from $1.3 billion during the same period in 1997. The company is expected to report its profits for 1998 today.

John Fay and Jeff McKinney contributed to this story.

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Tribe Fan in SC/Cali wrote:Pluto dilly dallied and did a three card monte by dancing around and omitting the fact that The Cleveland Indians have had solidity and stability in the organizational management with combined years of over 1/3 of a century.

The mention of the tenure of Manny Acta and the rapidly changing roster of "players" was a divert and redirect attempt.

I'll agree with Rusty that Terry Pluto has apparently become a tool, though that's my word, not Rusty's.

Mark Shapiro has been with The Cleveland Indians for near 22 years. He's been GM and President since 2001, and he is credited with running the minors starting 17 years ago.

Chris Antonetti has been with The Cleveland Indians for 14 years.

When Antonetti was "passed the baton" to become GM, the press noted that Shapiro and Antonetti dressed alike, carried water alike, and prided in thinking alike. Shapiro was an Ivy League guy who never played baseball beyond high school, and Chris Antonetti was a Georgetown grad who grew up in the shadows of Yale and never played a baseball game beyond the age of 15.

I believe the quote was "the only difference between Chris Antonetti and Mark Shapiro is that Chris is four inches shorter."

This Cleveland Indians franchise has been the epitome of stability, and groupthink, that continues to find new ways to produce losing seasons and bleak organizational futures.

Again, we have only had two winning seasons since 2001, and I do not think any of us see a winning season coming next season or the one thereafter.

YES! If anything, the Indians have made a fetish out of stability. I remember people being surprised when they hired Acta, precisely because he came from totally outside the organization. He might have been the highest-profile new hire who came from some other team since Hank Peters.

I think Pluto has it mostly backwards. Bad teams have a lack of stability precisely because they are bad, not the other way around. There are probably exceptions here and there--I suspect the Oakland Raiders aren't being helped by having a new head coach every damn season--but failure on the field tends to lead to people losing their jobs, especially when most of the team's big moves of recent years have been catastrophes.

The Indians look like they are going to win 10-15 fewer games this season than last, and they weren't that great to begin with. Most managers in that situation who don't have a killer track record to fall back on do end up getting fired. I'm on record as believing that the identity of the manager is low on the list of issues here, but I certainly don't think the Tribe would be behaving in a strange or precipitous way if Acta were to get canned.

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The good news for Rusty and the rest of the Dolanites is that the with this news they dont have to ever worry about Dolan selling the team as their is no way it makes financial sense now. Life is good for Larry Paul and Rusty. Enjoy Dolanites:



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ESPN Inks Record Deal for Baseball Broadcasting Rights
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The ESPN sports network has agreed to pay Major League Baseball $5.6 billion over eight years for broadcast TV and digital rights through 2021, sources familiar with the deal said on Tuesday.


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ESPN, a major profit driver for owner Walt Disney [DIS 49.63 --- UNCH ], will pay an average of $700 million a year, nearly double its current payments to the league, said the three sources who asked to remain anonymous.

The deal sets a record for baseball broadcasting rights, Major League Baseball said in a statement, without disclosing the financial details.

Under the deal, ESPN will retain rights to "Sunday Night Baseball," Monday and Wednesday night games, and highlights for "Baseball Tonight," the network said in a statement. ESPN also gains one post-season game annually during the Wild Card round of the playoffs. The game will alternate each year between the American and National leagues.

(Read More: The Greatest Experiences in Baseball.)

The agreement, which starts in 2014, also includes digital, international and radio rights. ESPN will be able to run more content on its TV and digital platforms, including a new daily baseball show. The number of regular-season games it broadcasts each year will increase to 90 from 80, including four games during the pennant chase in the last two weeks of September.




Now, ESPN pays about $306 million annually to Major League Baseball for domestic television rights, and about $50 million for digital, international and radio rights.

Live sports programs are among the most valuable broadcasts to advertisers because viewers typically watch them live without skipping commercials. Because of that, sports leagues have been winning larger payments in contract negotiations with television networks.

Last year, ESPN struck a $15.2 billion deal with the National Football League that will keep "Monday Night Football" on the network through 2021.

Network executives say demand for sports remains strong and they are confident they can make back their rights payments through advertising dollars.

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Here's the meat in what Kenm shared from his smart phone or something....


ESPN Inks Record Deal for Baseball Broadcasting Rights

Published: Tuesday, 28 Aug 2012 | 3:24 PM ET

By: Reuters

ESPN, a major profit driver for owner Walt Disney [DIS 49.63 --- UNCH ], will pay an average of $700 million a year, nearly double its current payments to the league, said the three sources who asked to remain anonymous.

The deal sets a record for baseball broadcasting rights, Major League Baseball said in a statement, without disclosing the financial details.

Under the deal, ESPN will retain rights to "Sunday Night Baseball," Monday and Wednesday night games, and highlights for "Baseball Tonight," the network said in a statement. ESPN also gains one post-season game annually during the Wild Card round of the playoffs. The game will alternate each year between the American and National leagues.

The agreement, which starts in 2014, also includes digital, international and radio rights. ESPN will be able to run more content on its TV and digital platforms, including a new daily baseball show. The number of regular-season games it broadcasts each year will increase to 90 from 80, including four games during the pennant chase in the last two weeks of September.

Now, ESPN pays about $306 million annually to Major League Baseball for domestic television rights, and about $50 million for digital, international and radio rights.

Live sports programs are among the most valuable broadcasts to advertisers because viewers typically watch them live without skipping commercials. Because of that, sports leagues have been winning larger payments in contract negotiations with television networks.

Last year, ESPN struck a $15.2 billion deal with the National Football League that will keep "Monday Night Football" on the network through 2021.

Network executives say demand for sports remains strong and they are confident they can make back their rights payments through advertising dollars.

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Indians Claim Scott Maine

By Ben Nicholson-Smith [August 29 at 1:19pm CST]

The Indians announced that they claimed left-hander Scott Maine off of waivers from the Cubs. The Cubs designated Maine for assignment two days ago to create 40-man roster space for catcher Anthony Recker.

Maine, a sixth round selection in 2007, appeared in 21 games for the Cubs this year, posting a 4.79 ERA with 11.3 K/9 and 5.2 BB/9 in 20 2/3 innings. The 27-year-old has had high strikeout and walk rates throughout his professional career. In parts of six minor league seasons, Maine has a 3.28 ERA with 10.2 K/9 and 4.0 BB/9.

The Indians note that Maine and Cleveland closer Chris Perez played together in college at the University of Miami.

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Sounds like their success with Esmil Rogers has them believing they can do the same thing with Maine.

The Cubs aren't really in a position where they can be getting rid of talent, but it's not like we have anything to lose by picking Maine up and seeing what happens, especially since our other lefthanded relievers aren't sure things to be back next year.

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Cleveland Indians DFA Shelley Duncan to make room for RHP Jeanmar Gomez
This headline makes you believe they needed room for Gomez and Duncan got caught in a numbers game.

Why don't they make a statement and just DFA Duncan?

No callup.

"We made the move today because Duncan sucked".

When that sinks in, then call somebody up.

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I think the DFA of Duncan was more about Maine. Gomez is taking Duncan's place on the active roster, but he was already on the 40-man.

I had originally thought Duncan might be in the DH mix for next year, but he really hasn't done enough to justify a place on the 40-man in this coming offseason, even though he hits the occasional homer. I probably would have kept him now and DFA'd Hannahan or Kotchman, who are even worse at the plate. But like almost everything else associated with the team in its current state, it's not worth arguing about.

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I can take a losing streak.

I can take an organization that does not inspire confidence in the future.


I cannot take a sports writer who is just a front for the organization, however lame it is.

Here is Dennis Manoloff's attempt at dispersing organizational blame tonight:


The Indians set a feisty tone. With one out in the bottom of the first, Asdrubal Cabrera thought he had drawn a full-count walk. Plate umpire Gary Darling called him out. Cabrera argued and was tossed.

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ss ... er_default


In ShapiroWorld, players who think, or show "a desire to win type motivation," are summarily dismissed in the Northern Ohio press.