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Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:11 pm
by buck84
You cannot rate a draft for 5 years

Why the indians are where they are

2007 Indians Draft Picks
January 1, 2007
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Rd Overall Player Position School
1 13 Beau Mills 1B/3B Lewis-Clark State (Idaho)
4 137 T.J. McFarland LHP Stagg HS, Palos Heights, Ill.
5 167 Jonathan Holt RHP Tampa
6 197 Bo Greenwell OF Riverdale HS, Fort Myers, Fla.
7 227 Cole St. Clair LHP Rice
8 257 Mark Thompson SS Lewis-Clark State (Idaho)
9 287 Adam White OF West Virginia
10 317 Heath Taylor LHP Oklahoma
11 347 Matt Hague OF/RHP Washington
12 377 Gary Campfield RHP Texas A&M
13 407 Matt Brown OF Wichita State
14 437 Daniel Morales RHP San Francisco
15 467 Chris Jones LHP Gaither HS, Tampa
16 497 Doug Hogan C Clemson
17 527 Miles Morgan RHP Texas Tech
18 557 Kyle Landis RHP Pittsburgh
19 587 Bobby Coyle OF Chatsworth (Calif.) HS
20 617 Jeff Hehr SS Eastern Michigan
21 647 Jared Clark OF/RHP Cal State Fullerton
22 677 Stihl Sowers RHP North Lenoir HS, Wheat Swamp, N.C.
23 707 Shaeffer Hall LHP Jefferson County (Mo.) CC
24 737 Adam Zornes C Rice
25 767 Kyle Leiendecker LHP Homestead HS, Fort Wayne, Ind.
26 797 Michael Valadez C Lee (Tenn.)
27 827 Daniel Edwards RHP Kansas State
28 857 Scott Savastano 3B/SS Franklin Pierce (N.H.)
29 887 Garrett Rieck LHP Chico State (Calif.)
30 917 Bryce Brentz RHP South-Doyle HS, Knoxville, Tenn.
31 947 Jason Hessler RHP St. Joseph's
32 976 Joey Mahalic RHP/3B Wilson HS, Portland, Ore.
33 1005 Tyler Kuhn 3B/SS West Virginia
34 1034 Josh Judy RHP Indiana Tech
35 1063 Brian Juhl C Stanford
36 1092 P.J. Zocchi RHP Clemson
37 1120 Dean Kiekhefer LHP Oldham County HS, Buckner, Ky.
38 1148 Johnny Williams RHP Tampa
39 1176 Eric Jokisch LHP Virginia (Ill.) HS
40 1204 Dallas Cawiezell RHP Valparaiso
41 1230 Tommy Luce RHP Seminole State (Okla.) JC
42 1256 Bryce Tafelski C Santa Ynez (Calif.) HS
43 1282 Travis Howell C Long Beach State
44 1308 Ryan Royster OF UC Davis
45 1334 Dan Evatt OF Grapevine (Texas) HS
46 1358 Brock Simpson OF Kansas
47 1381 Kevin Rucker OF Pioneer Valley HS, Santa Maria, Calif.
48 1402 Walter Diaz SS Miami
49 1423 Matt Willard SS Arkansas
50 1444 Doug Pickens C Michigan

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:13 pm
by buck84
This draft looks better

2008 Indians Draft Picks
January 1, 2007
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Round Overall Player Position School
1 29 Lonnie Chisenhall SS Pitt (N.C.) CC
2 76 Trey Haley RHP Central Heights HS, Nacogdoches, Texas

3 107 Cord Phelps 2B Stanford
4 141 David Roberts RHP Long Beach State
5 171 Zach Putnam RHP Michigan
6 201 Jeremie Tice 3B College of Charleston
7 231 Tim Fedroff OF North Carolina
8 261 Eric Berger LHP Arizona
9 291 Clayton Cook RHP Amarillo (Texas) HS

10 321 Donnie Webb OF Oklahoma State
11 351 Matt Langwell RHP Rice
12 381 Guido Fonseca RHP Northern Iowa
13 411 Adam Abraham 3B Michigan
14 441 Carlos Moncrief RHP Chipola (Fla.) JC
15 471 Jason Rodriguez 3B Nevada
16 501 T.J. House LHP Picayune (Miss.) Memorial HS
17 531 Mitch Mormann RHP Des Moines Area (Iowa) CC
18 561 Kaimi Mead LHP Hawaii Pacific
19 591 Nate Recknagel 1B Michigan
20 621 Marty Popham RHP Union (Ky.)
21 651 Ryan Blair OF Sacramento State
22 681 Bryce Stowell RHP UC Irvine
23 711 Otto Roberts RHP Belleville (Ill.) West HS
24 741 Kevin Fontanez SS Puerto Rico Baseball Academy, Gurabo, P.R.
25 771 Steve Smith RHP Ouachita Baptist (Ark.)
26 801 Moises Montero C Chipola (Fla.) JC
27 831 Michael Goodnight RHP Westside (Texas) HS
28 861 Russell Young LHP Dartmouth
29 891 Ryan McCarney RHP JC of the Canyons (Calif.)
30 921 Jeffrey Walters RHP St. Petersburg (Fla.) JC
31 951 Trevor Cousineau LHP Davison (Mich.) HS
32 981 Nick Christiani RHP Vanderbilt
33 1011 Roberto Perez C Lake City (Fla.) CC
34 1041 Collin Brennan RHP Bradley
35 1071 Eagan Smith LHP CC of Southern Nevada
36 1101 Adam Warren RHP North Carolina
37 1131 Chad Bell LHP Walters State (Tenn.) CC
38 1161 Brian Grening RHP Cal Poly
39 1191 Eddie Burns RHP Georgia Tech
40 1221 Tim Palincsar OF Texas-San Antonio
41 1251 Adam Matthews OF White Knoll HS, Lexington, S.C.
42 1281 Logan Thompson SS Jupiter (Fla.) HS
43 1311 Mike McGuire RHP Delaware
44 1340 Cory White RHP Rend Lake (Ill.) JC
45 1368 Dean Lagonosky OF Haverford (Pa.)
46 1395 Matt Ramsey RHP Farragut HS, Knoxville, Tenn.
47 1422 Randon Henika SS Garber HS, Essexville, Mich.
48 1449 Troy White 3B Whitney Young (IL) HS
49 1476 Devin Jones RHP Eupora (Miss.) HS
50 1503 Hector Acosta-Carillo OF Junction City (Kan.) HS

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:20 pm
by buck84
This guy was selected 1 pick ahead of Levon Washington and the Indians loved him

Pirates Move Stetson Allie To Third Base

Posted Jun. 4, 2012 1:10 pm by J.J. Cooper
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Stetson Allie, the Pirates' second-round pick in 2010, is being converted to a position player, former Baseball America correspondent Dejan Kovacevic reported in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review today.

The move is a stunning one, as Allie was one of the most significant signings of the 2010 draft–his $2.2 million signing bonus was the ninth-highest in that draft. Now after just 27 pro innings, Allie is becoming a hitter. He was a legitimate two-way prospect coming out of high school, but he was a significantly better prospect as a pitcher. He was considered a top 100 prospect as a hitter; a first-round talent as a pitcher.

Our 2010 pre-draft scouting report said:

He had expressed a desire to hit, and he does have some of the best raw power in the draft. He famously hit a broken-bat homer at the East Coast Professional Showcase last summer, though his swing has gotten long this spring. With his size, power and arm strength, he could be an early-round pick as a third baseman, but he now accepts that his future is on the mound.

The Pirates were as aggressive as anyone in using above-slot bonuses to bring in draft talent under the previous rules, but they have not seen many dividends yet. Here's a look at Pirates picks after the first round who received significantly above-slot bonuses from 2008-2010 (we left out 2011 because they have played so little).

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:16 pm
by civ ollilavad
Alex Lavisky was Allie's high school catcher. Lavisky is doing OK but not more than that after signing his own $1 million bonus. Maybe he should move to the mound.

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:19 pm
by civ ollilavad
Round 2:

Mitch Brown RHP Century HS, Rochester, Minn.

Brown could make history as the first Minnesota prep pitcher ever drafted before the second round. [didn't make it] He looked like a first-rounder in his opening start of 2012, when he didn't throw a fastball under 90 mph and threw several at 94. He backed it up with an 87-88 mph cutter/slider and a curveball that both projected as plus pitches, and showed aptitude for a changeup that could become an average offering. Brown hasn't quite lived up to that standard in his subsequent outings, but he continues to display advanced feel for his four-pitch repertoire. Scouts gush about his focus and discipline as well. The son of a Korean powerlifter, he has a strong 6-foot-2, 210-pound build. There's some crossfire to his delivery, but it adds deception rather than detracts from his command. Brown has a scholarship from the University of San Diego that likely will become moot if he's selected in the first two rounds.

[High School pitchers were the focus of our lamented Fab Four. Dillon Howard last year was our Round 2 pick. Hasn't ptiched this season; in extended ST I hope unless he was hurt; I don't know. I don't pay Tony L for his detailed reports.]

BA rated him 45, so we got him somewhat lower than he was projected.

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:49 pm
by J.R.
Cleveland Indians draft Texas A&M outfielder Tyler Naquin 15th overall in first round
Published: Monday, June 04, 2012, 8:57 PM Updated: Monday, June 04, 2012, 11:11 PM
By Bill Lubinger, The Plain Dealer

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Major League Baseball draft projections had the Indians taking another arm.
But the club spent its first pick, the 15th overall, in Monday's opening round on Texas A&M junior outfielder Tyler Naquin.

"What the Indians got was a bat," said former Indians General Manager John Hart of the MLB Network.
MLB.com draft analyst Jonathan Mayo had ranked Naquin at No. 30.

Baseball America ranked him 25th overall but as the third-best corner outfielder and the best pure hitter in the draft.

What the 6-2, 175-pound left-handed-hitting Naquin can do with the bat is exactly what drew the Indians to him.

"We feel he's got a chance to be an above-average hitter. That's what really attracted us to Tyler," Brad Grant, the Indians director of amateur scouting, said on a conference call with reporters immediately after the pick.

"He's got a wiry, strong, athletic body. He's playing right field right now, but with his tools, his speed, his instincts, his arm, we feel he has the ability to play center field in pro ball."

Naquin, 21, who was drafted in the 33rd round out of high school by Baltimore in 2009, led the Aggies with a .380 batting average this season. He had 18 doubles, six triples and three homers.

His power is a question, which is why some scouts label him a "tweener" -- not quite the heavy bat for a corner outfield spot, but maybe not the speed or range for center.

"He's got more power than some guys give him credit for," Grant said. "He drives the ball and has the ability to turn doubles into triples."

Naquin, who won the Big 12 Conference batting title (.381) and led Division I in hits as a sophomore, scored 56 runs this season, stole 21 bases in 26 attempts and was a first-team All-Big 12 selection.

Naquin, whose dad turned their backyard pasture into a baseball diamond, said he was a little surprised he went as early as he did. He expected to go anywhere from No. 18 on.

Naquin said the low power numbers partly reflect his role at Texas A&M, where his job was to get on base.
"I feel people read about power numbers, how they need to increase, and I have no doubt that they will," he said. "I just need to get bigger and stronger and more experience at the next level."

The Indians will pick 79th overall (in round two), 110th overall (in round three) and 15th in each of the following rounds. The draft resumes today at noon and will go from rounds 2 through 15, with the balance completed Wednesday. There are 40 rounds.

Draft analysts described the strength of this year's field as college pitching and high school power bats, but average overall, at best, and especially thin at college-level position players.

With the No. 1 overall pick, Houston chose Carlos Correa, a coveted 6-4 high school shortstop from Puerto Rico.

Within the American League Central Division, Minnesota took Georgia high school outfielder Byron Buxton at No. 2 overall; Kansas City chose right-hander Kyle Zimmer from the University of San Francisco at No. 5; and the Chicago White Sox picked Texas prep outfielder Courtney Hawkins at No. 13.

The Indians had taken a college player with their first pick in nine straight drafts before choosing high school shortstop Francisco Lindor eighth overall last summer. Lindor, who plays for the Indians' Low Class A Lake County Captains, was the first nonpitcher taken by the Indians since 2008.

The deadline to sign drafted players is July 13 at 5 p.m. The Indians negotiated up to the final minute before signing Lindor for $2.9 million last year.

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:23 pm
by Peter C
The Indians today picked right-handed high-school pitcher Kieran Lovegrove of Mission Viejo, Calif., in the third round of the Major League Baseball draft, No. 110 overall.

He is the second right-handed high-school pitcher the Indians have taken in the draft, after they selected Mitch Brown of Minnesota in round two.

Baseball America ranked Lovegrove 131st overall and the 52nd right-hander in the draft. He was projected as a third- to fourth-rounder coming in.

The 6-4, 175-pound standout is committed to Arizona State.

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:36 pm
by civ ollilavad
A high school bat in Round 4:

Rated No. 91 D'Vone McClure [-d] [-] OF HS Jacksonville (Ark.) HS Ark.
Drafted with the #143 overall pick by Cleveland Indians

Arkansas' top prep hitter, McClure put himself on the map in 2011 when he won several matchups with eventual Indians supplemental first-rounder Dillon Howard. McClure has consistently hit the top arms he has faced (including Trey Killian this year), and gave up football to sign a baseball-only scholarship offer to Arkansas. Few expect him to get to Fayetteville, though. Some scouts compare McClure to Austin Jackson, while others are unsure if he can stay in center field. Like Jackson, McClure takes a big swing and is just an average runner, at times turning in below-average times to first. He'll have to improve his instincts to play center as well as Jackson, but he should have more power. McClure has excellent bat speed and the handsy looseness scouts look for in hitters, and many project him to hit for plus power. Teams that aren't as high on McClure say he has an inconsistent motor and modest speed. Even teams that give him a chance to stay in center realize they are mostly buying the bat.

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:56 pm
by civ ollilavad
The one area in which the Indians are most desparately short of talent is the OF [in the minor leagues]. 2 of top 4 are offensive OF's with modest power. They will move immediately onto the top rungs of the Tribe prospect list.

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:07 pm
by joez
I like the Naquin selection but I'm not very happy with the other selections so far. I was hoping for some corner infield and corner outfield position players with some decent power ceilings at least in these first few rounds.

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:18 pm
by J.R.
But what does Dennis Nosco think?

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 4:59 pm
by civ ollilavad
Riound 5 back to RHP this time at JUCO level

Dylan Baker RHP Western Nevada JC

Baker has taken an uncharted path as a prospect. He went to Douglas High in Juneau, Alaska, before pitching at Tacoma (Wash.) CC last year and then winding up at Western Nevada this year. Baker has a good pitcher's frame at 6-foot-3 and 213 pounds and has put up fantastic numbers as the ace for the Wildcats, though scouts see him in the bullpen. His fastball sits in the 90-95 mph range, and his breaking ball shows flashes of being a plus pitch, though scouts would like for it to be more of a true slider. He mixes in an occasional changeup but is more of a two-pitch guy, which limits his role. Scouts don't love his delivery because he doesn't stay in line to the plate and shows effort, which limits his command and would seem to further suggest a future in the bullpen.

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:02 pm
by civ ollilavad
Round 6 they go after a 2nd baseman. Why, I can't be certain. We have Kipnis and Phelps and Wolters and other good middle IF at Class A who can't all stay at SS.

Joe Wendle 2B West Chester (Pa.) Pa.
Wendle helped West Chester win the Division II national championship by hitting .399/.479/.768 with 12 home runs in 198 at-bats. He also struck out 29 times [editor note, I assume that is supposed to be walked 29 times] while striking out just five. He has good hitting ability thanks to a good, level stroke and approach. He's an average runner and has solid hands. He's shown aptitude for hitting with wood by hitting .346 in the Coastal Plains League in 2011 and .311 in the New England Collegiate League in 2010.


Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:03 pm
by civ ollilavad
Round 7 another HS OF.

Josh McAdams OF Calhoun (Ga.) HS

No BA writeup which apparently means he did not crack their Top 500.

From ohio.com:

From Calhoun, Ga., the 6-foot-4, 210-pounder batted .447 with six home runs, nine doubles and three triples to help lead his team to a Region 7-AA title and a third-round state playoff appearance.

Shubert-McAdams also went 6-1 with a 2.68 ERA on the mound and signed to play baseball at High Point University (N

Re: Minor Matters

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:04 pm
by civ ollilavad
Round 8 back to RHP again from HS level.

Caleb Hamrick RHP Cedar Hill (Texas) HS

Another attractive Texas high school pitcher who probably can't be diverted from college, Hamrick is a 6-foot-3, 225-pounder who repeatedly has reached 93 mph with his fastball this spring. The Dallas Baptist recruit usually works at 88-91 mph with his heater and pairs it with a promising slider. Also a righthanded-hitting slugger, he has participated in the last two International Power Showcases.