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we get their No 9 and No 10 prospects,

Josh Wolf 20 year old RHP

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AGE
20
BATS
R
DOB
09/01/2000
THROWS
R
HT
6' 3"
DRAFTED
2019, 2nd (53) - NYM
WT
170
ETA
2023

Scouting Grades/Report (20-80 grading scale)
FASTBALL
60
CURVEBALL
60
CHANGEUP
50
CONTROL
55
OVERALL
50
Wolf was well known to scouts before his senior year at St. Thomas High (Texas), but his projectability stood out more than his present stuff and most figured he wouldn't get drafted early enough to divert him from a Texas A&M commitment. That changed when he hit 97 mph in his first appearance of the year, and he continued to improve his Draft stock en route to a second-round selection by the Mets. After signing for above-slot value at $2.15 million, Wolf dazzled during an abbreviated pro debut in the Rookie Gulf Coast League, where he struck out 36.4 percent of the 33 batters he faced while posting a 42 percent swinging-strike rate.

Adding strength to his 6-foot-2 frame and lowering his arm slot has helped Wolf’s stuff take off. Those changes increased the velocity and movement on his fastball, which ranged from 90-97 mph with armside run during the spring and averaged 94 mph during his pro debut. He has a second future plus pitch in a curveball that registers in the low 80s with 12-to-6 break when he stays on top of it. Wolf's changeup isn't as effective as his other two pitches, though he can flash some solid ones with fade and tumble that point toward it becoming at least average.

Wolf’s athleticism, quick arm and clean delivery enable him to pitch to both sides of the plate and all four quadrants of the strike zone, and he earns high marks for his aptitude with regards to making adjustments. He has plenty of room still to add strength to his projectable frame and should continue to get better with those physical gains as well as his development on the mound.

No, 10 prospect Isaiah Greene


AGE
19
BATS
L
DOB
08/29/2001
THROWS
L
HT
6' 1"
DRAFTED
2020, 2Cth (69) - NYM
WT
180
ETA
2024
T

Scouting Grades/Report (20-80 grading scale)
HIT
55
POWER
45
RUN
65
ARM
50
FIELD
55
OVERALL
50
After a lackluster junior season at Corona High School in Southern California, Greene wasn't on many radars as a potential top-three-rounds player. He jumped onto the map with a very strong Area Code Games and then really stood out as part of a scout team that played against USA Baseball's 18-and-under team before it headed to international competition this fall. Impressed by his athleticism and potential for across-the-board tools, the Mets selected Greene in the second compensation round (No. 69 overall) with the pick they received as a result of free agent Zack Wheeler signing with the Phillies.

Greene has as impressive raw tools as anyone in Southern California. There's no doubt he can stay in center field, where his plus speed will allow him to remain in the long-term, though he has much to learn in terms of reads and routes. That speed also allows him to be aggressive on the basepaths. He can really hit with a contact-oriented approach. His swing is pretty flat, but he still can drive the ball at times, with scouts thinking power will come as he figures that part of his game out. Meanwhile, the fact that Greene relied on hand-eye coordination and feel for the barrel more than his swing mechanics and approach at the plate in high school makes him an excellent candidate to improve quickly as he receives better instruction in the pro ranks.

Even without much polish, Greene really stood out against top competition over the summer and fall. Though he didn't hit as well out of the gate this past spring, he still was perhaps the most improved player in the area over the last year and has plenty of room for growth and development.

In 3 years Mercado can be replaced by Greene. Be patient everyone. that's about when Valera will take over RF and join Naylor in the OF of my mid-70s. Can hardly wait.

BA still had Giminez listed on their prospects list since he's not played used up his "rookie" AB limit. He's No. 3 on Mets list

3. Andres Gimenez | SS
Andres Gimenez
Born: Sep 4, 1998
Bats: L Throws: R
Ht.: 5'11" Wt.: 161
Drafted: Venezuela, 2015.
Signed By: Robert Espejo/Hector Rincones.

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Hitting: 50.Power: 40. Run: 70. Fielding: 60. Arm: 50.

TRACK RECORD: The prize of the Mets’ 2015 international signing class, Gimenez worked his way to Double-A as a 19-year-old in 2018. He didn’t blossom until after the 2019 season, when he hit .371 to win the Arizona Fall League batting title. Expanded 28- man rosters afforded Gimenez the chance to make the Mets’ Opening Day roster in 2020. He seized the opportunity and showed himself more than capable defensively and on the basepaths.

SCOUTING REPORT: Gimenez appeared unfazed by the big league spotlight. His strike-zone judgment was sound and he hit his first two home runs to the opposite field. Even if he never develops more than average hitting ability or power, Gimenez has the type of barrel control and speed that makes him difficult to defend. He stole eight bases in nine tries to put his double-plus wheels to good use. Gimenez has the soft hands, reflexes and plus arm of a true shortstop and the versatility to handle second base or third base. He made only one error as a rookie and ranked 10th among infielders with five outs above average, according to Statcast.

THE FUTURE: Gimenez wrested playing time from Amed Rosario, and his defensive ability and feel for the game give him a chance to be the club’s regular shortstop in 2021.

Here's the CF we would have preferred:

5. Pete Crow-Armstrong | OF
Pete Crow-Armstrong
Born: Mar 25, 2002
Bats: L Throws: L
Ht.: 6'1" Wt.: 180
Drafted: HS—Los Angeles, 2020 (1st round).
Signed By: Rusty McNamara.
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Hitting: 50.Power: 40. Run: 60. Fielding: 60. Arm: 55.

TRACK RECORD: Crow-Armstrong knows the spotlight. Both of his parents are actors. He starred for USA Baseball’s national teams from the age of 12. He played for Harvard-Westlake, the Los Angeles-area high school that produced first-round pitchers Lucas Giolito, Max Fried and Jack Flaherty. The Mets drafted Crow-Armstrong 19th overall in 2020 and signed him for the slot value of $3.359 million.

SCOUTING REPORT: As a rising senior, Crow-Armstrong ranked as the best high school prospect in his class. He stumbled on the 2019 showcase circuit but regained his form the following spring before the amateur season was scuttled. Crow-Armstrong was the best defensive outfielder in the 2020 prep class and one of its best hitters and fastest runners. His grace and anticipation in center field give him Gold Glove upside, while his above-average arm is a separator at the position. Crow-Armstrong profiles as a top-of- the-order hitter who offers advanced bat-to-ball skills, a direct swing path and the above-average speed to leg out hits. He could mature into power but is expected to be a hit-over-power offensive player.

THE FUTURE: The Mets laud Crow-Armstrong’s competitive makeup, which helps make him the leading candidate to be the Mets’ center fielder of the future.

10. Josh Wolf | RHP
Josh Wolf
Born: Sep 1, 2000
Bats: R Throws: R
Ht.: 6'3" Wt.: 170
Drafted: HS—Houston, 2019 (2nd round).
Signed By: Harry Shelton.
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Fastball: 50. Slider: 60. Changeup: 45. Control: 50.

TRACK RECORD: Wolf blossomed as a high school senior in 2019 by showing a dramatic uptick in velocity and continuing to throw strikes at his newfound speed. The Mets drafted him in the second round that year and signed him for $2.15 million, nearly $800,000 over slot for the 53rd pick. Wolf made his pro debut in the Rookie-level Gulf Coast League in 2019, but had to work remotely until instructional league in 2020 after not being brought to the Mets’ alternate training site.

SCOUTING REPORT: Wolf has a chance to develop three average to above pitches with above-average control. Multiple scouts have likened his body type and athleticism to Walker Buehler when he was in high school. Wolf ranges from 91-96 mph with his fastball and throws strikes. He has potential to pitch in the mid 90s as he matures, with untapped physicality in his lean 6-foot-3 frame. Wolf shows an advanced feel for spin. He calls his breaking ball a curveball but its shape and late, abrupt break at 78-81 mph are more indicative of a slider or slurve. Given his ease of operation, Wolf should be able to pick up a usable changeup and continue throwing strikes.

THE FUTURE: It will take time, but Wolf has mid-rotation upside and could blossom with a season of regular work.

Wolf sounds like one of our regular development projects.

The two infielders sound like a lot of our somewhat younger infielders although Tyler Freeman should be a better hitter than either and handle 2b until Bracho makes it.

Wolf was not top Met starting pitcher prospect; that is Matt Allen who rated No. 4 on the BA list. But we have two many Allens already. Two other pitchers rated ahead of Wolf, too.

Looking at the prospects chat for more info. I find Greene listed as "just missing the cut" so I guess he would be No. 11 for BA

Here's a good question but not really answered:

Great list! How close was Isaiah Greene? I know we took him in the competitive balance round B last year. Does that mean we get a competitive balance round A this year? I thought I heard that competitive round B and A alternate each year, meaning we would have competitive round A this year. Thanks!

Matt Eddy: The draft pick the Mets used to select Greene was compensation for losing free agent Zack Wheeler. The Mets are not eligible for MLB's competitive balance lottery.

What’s the latest you’ve heard on Josh Wolf? Haven’t heard much since he was drafted.

Matt Eddy: The Mets did not invite 2019 second-rounder Josh Wolf to the alternate training site, so he spent the summer developing independently. He looked good at instructional league, flashing four plusses but inconsistent control. If he can throw enough strikes, he is a good name to file away for growth potential.

in reference to some other guy slipping and Giminez rising: The ranking reversal is more a function of Andres Gimenez proving quite capable in the big leagues coming off his big AFL campaign

I am glad that the drama that was Lindor is gone. I think that affected his play last year, and in big playoff games, I would rather have Jose at bat than Frankie. Loved him and his smile when he was just happy playing baseball, once that youthful exuberance left so did his concentration on the game. I can remember more than several gaffs he made last year.

Hate to see Carrasco go, but we have a rush of talent that has to come forth. Need to keep the wheel turning.

I would be happier with some of those OFs we'd been talking about.

Bieber Plesac Civale McKenzie Quantrill is pretty good. Although not so sure about Civale and the latter two have talent but haven't proven themselves yet. And young. And cheap. I forgot Plutko along with Allen and Moss are other options.
Karinchak and Clase can be a good back of the bullpen. I guess the rest will be Wittgren and other inexpensive fillins.

Lineup, well my working draft didn't have Lindor so what's it look like now. Don't know who hits first or 2nd or 5th. Lots of options for 7-8-9

1. Gimenez? he can steal bases, but he doesn't walk
2. Naylor lf
3. Ramirez 3b
4. Reyes DH
5. Luplow or Johnson RF
6. Bauers or Bradley 1B
7. Perez C or Hedges
8. Rosario or Chang 2B
9. Mercado CF

That lineup will really scare a lot of pitching staffs.

New names for the Indians.

Cleveland Prospects

Cleveland Nostars

Cleveland Triple As

Cleveland Cheap Bastards

Cleveland Crows.....This team is Murder

Ok. Those are some pretty funny choices.



But they still make me sad.

I'll go along with TFIR on the suggestion that taking a step or two back and then recharging can be a successful strategy as the WhiteSox and Twins have recently shown. New money in the ownership bank account is crucial however

At some point you got to let the kids play for an extended time and see who grows into the job.