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Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 8:48 am
by TFIR
Skullcrushers is +90 innings. That's a joke. Yet azzoo is still ahead of him.

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:53 pm
by azzoo
I've often thought of a strategy like that before. I.E. getting way ahead on innings pitched. If you guys are winning, ride the streak. After the streak, dump/trade them and pick up some who can help fill the games missed for position players. Example for me is right now. Pitching has been great, but IF/OF guys are constantly taking days off. It makes it a pain to re-adjust the lineup on thursdays and Mondays, just to make up those days that guys take off.

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 2:32 pm
by TFIR
Here's the problem with that strategy.

It will work, but only temporarily. I've seen it many times.

Here's why.

In order to run up that many innings, you have to use pitchers who you ordinarily wouldn't use. That forces you to have "less than ideal" pitchers using up your LIMITED amount of innings.

If you have 1500 innings to spend during the course of the season, you want those innings to be used by the best pitchers possible, in order to maximize each inning.

Again, to run up tons of innings early means you are using LESS than top quality pitchers for too many of your limited innings. Therefore compromising the more important "points per inning used". (A great strategy if there is no innings limit)

The end result is that the manager jumps out to an overall points binge, and often leads the league while they are binging. Then they crash and burn in the end, having used up their innings - and with scrub level pitchers for lots of them.

When I see this done in random leagues, 9 out of 10 times it is a kid. The kids just gets a thrill of being in first place all that time, and doesn't worry about the crash and burn that happens, every time.

IMO, as a result, when a league leader has +100 innings, or whatever the amount, it is a false lead, often just for appearance sake.

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:52 pm
by J.R.
When I see this done in random leagues, 9 out of 10 times it is a kid. The kids just gets a thrill of being in first place all that time, and doesn't worry about the crash and burn that happens, every time.

Well, Alan is no kid, though maybe compared to us, he is....he's 35. lol!

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 5:56 pm
by J.R.
I don't know how you can make up missed games by position players, since you can only play one at each position. For example, if your SS ends up -10, you can't use 2 SS's to catch up.

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 7:46 pm
by azzoo
35 is old to me :D


I was refering to monday or thursday games when another team may not be playing.

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:30 pm
by Donnaj
My daughter is older than that.

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 9:43 pm
by TFIR
LOL, that's a kid. 35......hmmph!

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:28 am
by azzoo
Does that oficially make me the youngest one around? I started following the abj when I was in college. For the record, im 34.

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:46 am
by TFIR
I don't know if you are the youngest, but I sure am glad that the era of smart phones has enabled you to be back with us azzoo

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 9:03 am
by TFIR
JR, well, since I have +4 in my OF positions there MUST be a way to add games somehow, LOL!!

Basically, it's set up so that each position has 162 games. Games, not days. There are more than 162 DAYS in a season. So there are extra days to add games.

Therefore, if you add guys into the lineup at a position (say, 1B) on the days that your regular guy is NOT playing, that's how games are made up/added.

Especially on Mondays and Thursdays, days where many teams are off. IF you have a guy on your bench, put him in at the position you need to add games on to.

Sandbox used to have a somewhat complicated algorithm as to how this worked, but generally speaking it entails putting subs in on days regulars are not scheduled to play. That does not mean, depending on the date, that it always will add a game, though. That's the algorithm part, and I can't exactly explain that.

Suffice to say, as I started out saying, that if I have a position that is +4, then it must be possible to add games.

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:12 am
by Donnaj
I am TERRIBLE about using up too many pitching starts.

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:17 am
by DonSurber
Alan's on a learning curve right now.

I agree with TFIR.

To a point.

I am 84 IP over in one league but with Hernandez, Kershaw, Hamels, Price, Weaver and Cahill. What do I do, let them sit?

PS Someone got frustrated and waived Price.

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:20 am
by DonSurber
TFIR:

As to offense games, they are harder to fill, particularly at catcher. I say fill up as many games as you can early, when there are more off days, helps protect against an injury later. If you run out of games in September, so what? Everyone else moved on to football

Re: Fantasy Ball

Posted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:17 am
by J.R.
So you not only need a backup at every position, but one who plays on different days than your starter. Do you figure all that out in your draft preparation? Plus you need to check the lineups for every game, which are not available until about a half hour early, then make the required changes. Of course, you might not even know if your backup is playing until later. Seems to me that it's nearly impossible to avoid being under games started in some positions.