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Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:08 pm
by Hillbilly
Hillbilly wrote:Trying to find something recent to compare to Lindor.
2018, Dodgers traded 5 prospects for Manny Machado in a contract year at the deadline. Including one of their top prospects in Yusniel Diaz.
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I looked it up. Diaz was the Dodgers 4th best prospect at the time. So their 4th best prospect and 4 other prospects.
So this is my point. If we can’t get #1 prospect, like a Lux from Dodgers, and have to settle for the next tier anyway, might as well squeeze Lindor for every bit of juice we can. We’ll still get quite a haul of second tier prospects next July. I’m confident of that.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:38 pm
by Hillbilly
Clevinger signs a deal. 4.1 mill.
Now the Indians have agreed to terms with all five of their arbitration-eligible players:
Clevinger, DeShields, Lindor, Naquin, and Wittgren
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:04 pm
by seagull
Did I miss the Lindor signing?
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:34 am
by Hillbilly
Lindor signed for 17.5 mill.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:45 pm
by TFIR
Hillbilly wrote:Trying to find something recent to compare to Lindor.
2018, Dodgers traded 5 prospects for Manny Machado in a contract year at the deadline. Including one of their top prospects in Yusniel Diaz.
Good comparison. We won't agree on this one, I think it was an entirely mediocre haul.
By the way, I am not saying necessarily trade him. That is entirely, entirely, entirely based on offers they are getting and as usual we know nothing at all about what they are.
As you know from being the fantasy master you were, it all depends on what you are getting back. But in this industry you rarely get a true view of what that is.
So I think the front office is correct. Everyone is always for sale. All depends on the offer.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:09 pm
by seagull
Yeh, I missed Lindor's signing. He would have won anyway in arbitration.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:28 pm
by Hillbilly
I’m not sure we disagree, or if we’re just speaking two different languages.
Mediocre is exactly my point. If you aren’t getting an offer to blow you away, a stud prospect like Lux, just wait. You can get the next tier prospects at the deadline in his contract year. Or, yes, a more mediocre offer.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:41 pm
by civ ollilavad
Bauer signed for the same $17.5 M with the Reds. After a really stinky season.
Gio Urshela got $2.75M from the Yankees. Happy for him.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:09 pm
by TFIR
civ ollilavad wrote:Bauer signed for the same $17.5 M with the Reds. After a really stinky season.
Gio Urshela got $2.75M from the Yankees. Happy for him.
Unrelated but I do feel Bauer was legitimately hurting last season. I expect quite the rebound in his FA year.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:18 pm
by TFIR
Hey, Hoynsie: Why the lack of respect for the Dolan family in Northeast Ohio? I know this gets away from baseball, but remember when they were contenders to buy the Browns? Let’s be honest, how would the Browns look with the incredibly professional management they have shown with the Indians? Imagine Paul Dolan being able to operate on the even financial playing field of the NFL? – Mike D., Alliance.
Hey, Mike: It’s an interesting thought. I know Larry and Paul Dolan did try to buy the Browns at one time.
As owners of the Indians they have shown patience and the ability to hire the right kind of executives. Stability is one thing. But to have stability, patience and success is much harder. The Dolan family has handled all three quite well as owners of the Indians.
But how would that go over with Browns fans, who are used to having the organization blow itself up every two or three years? They might find it boring.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:01 pm
by TFIR
Josh Donaldson to Twins - 4 years at $92 million.
Ok yikes! That team was a hitting machine last year and they add Donaldson??
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:35 am
by civ ollilavad
We could have a good fight with the White Sox for 2nd in the Central and perhaps a wild card.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:36 am
by civ ollilavad
budget down to $96M. Should be a profitable season even without any October games.
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:54 am
by TFIR
I'll say it again - we have by far the best rotation in the division. Pitching still counts.
I'm up for a good divisional fight!
Re: General Discussion
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:36 pm
by civ ollilavad
but the depth is no longer an asset. Carlos, Mike, Shane, Zach and Aaron. Plutko has to stay in the pen if we want to keep him available. Can't recall if Jefry Rodriguez also is out of options, but he's a better fit in the bullpen regardless the next group are the lefties from the Bauer trade, Logan Allen and Moss. I guess that's a pretty good second string after all.