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Why didn’t the Guardians just keep Josh Naylor for 2025? The week in baseball

Updated: Jan. 04, 2025, 10:43 a.m.|Published: Jan. 04, 2025, 5:30 a.m.

By Paul Hoynes, cleveland.com

CLEVELAND, Ohio — The Josh Naylor trade is done, but thoughts on it still linger.

The big one is this:

Naylor, a free agent at the end of the 2025 season, is projected to make $12 million in arbitration. His agent is scheduled to file his salary request for the upcoming season on Jan. 9, while his new team, the Arizona Diamondbacks, counters with their offer.

A few moments after the Guardians traded Naylor to Arizona, the news that they’d signed Carlos Santana to a one-year $12 million deal broke. This will be Santana’s third tour with the Guardians. He’s hit 324 home runs in his career and last year won a Gold Glove for his play at first base with the Twins.

The big difference in the exchange of first basemen is age. The switch-hitting Santana turns 39 in April. The left-handed hitting Naylor, coming off a career power season in which he hit 31 homers and drove in 108 runs, will be 28 in June.

Money is always tight with the Guardians. In this case, the salaries are expected to be a wash. Which raises the question of why didn’t the Guardians keep Naylor for the 2025 season and let him walk at the end of the year?

He’s 10 years younger than Santana. His power numbers are trending upward, while Santana’s are remarkably consistent, but not the equal of Naylor’s. Then there’s this: At 39, when does Santana’s pop vanish?

It turns out the Guardians thought long and hard about riding Naylor into the free-agent sunset. They’ve done it before with quality players, namely Michael Brantley.

Many in the front office felt Naylor would be their first baseman for 2025. Not only did they think they couldn’t get the right value for him in a trade, but they didn’t know who would replace him at first base.

rom the outside looking in, fans felt the Guardians should have received a power-hitter or established starting pitcher for Naylor. That wasn’t going to happen because Naylor is so close to free agency.

Before the trade, the rumor was that the Guardians were looking for a controllable major league-ready pitcher in exchange for Naylor. This time the rumors were right. They received right-hander Slade Cecconi, who has made 17 starts in the big leagues, and won’t be a free agent until 2031.

Cecconi, 25, will go to spring training competing for a job in the rotation and bullpen. He was not impressive last year, going 2-7 with a 6.66 ERA in 20 games, including 13 starts, for the D-Backs. The performance improved at Triple-A Reno where Cecconi went 4-2 with a 3.06 ERA in 18 games, including five starts. He struck out 54 and walked 14 in 47 innings.

The Guardians also received Arizona’s Competitive Balance Round B pick in the draft in July. The Guards have the 27th pick in the first round based on their 92 wins last season. But they own two of the first three picks (No. 70 and No. 72) in the Competitive Balance Round B, which takes place between the second and third rounds.

When the decision to trade Naylor was made, the Guardians knew they needed help at first base. David Fry will be limited to DH duties because of right elbow surgery when he’s able to play. Rookie Kyle Manzardo and Jhonkensy Noel were used sparingly at the position last year. If the Guardians couldn’t find an adequate replacement for Naylor, the trade made no sense.

Fortunately, the free agent market was teeming with first basemen. Pete Alonzo, Christian Walker, Paul Goldschmidt, Justin Turner, Josh Bell, Joey Gallo, Anthony Rizzo and, of course, Santana were among them.

The Guardians considered several options before signing Santana. The signing was part of a flurry of deals involving first basemen. Walker signed with Houston — which prompted Arizona to acquire Naylor to replace Walker — while Goldschmidt signed with the Yankees and Bell with the Nationals.

Cleveland finished seventh in runs last year in the AL. It was a big jump from a 12th-place finish in 2023.

So was their sixth-place finish in home runs with 185. In 2023, they finished dead last in all of baseball with 124.

There is concern about the offense backsliding without Naylor, and there should be. Somebody has to hit behind Jose Ramirez, or the 54 times he’s been intentionally walked over the last three years will grow considerably.

If Santana can hold back the hands of time, that will help. The same goes for full and healthy seasons from All-Star Steven Kwan and Lane Thomas. Kwan hit .292 (140 for 480) with a career-high 14 homers last year, but played only 122 games because of two trips to the injured list.

The Guards acquired Thomas in a deadline deal from Washington. He opened his stay in Cleveland with a 4 for 55 skid, but eventually found his footing. He hit seven homers in September and .316 (6 for 19) with two homers and nine RBI in the ALDS against Detroit.

There is a big hole to fill at second base following the trade of Gold Glover Andres Gimenez to Toronto. Gimenez made 152 starts last year. It’s doubtful the Guardians will get that kind of production from one player, but manager Stephen Vogt has more than enough candidates to mix and match. The burden will be on shortstop Brayan Rocchio to adjust to what could be an ever-changing cast of double-play partners.

Chris Antonetti, president of baseball operations, has made it clear over the last few years that the Guardians’ success depends largely on the continued improvement by MLB’s youngest roster, not on the additions that are made through free agency or trades.

It means players such as Bo Naylor, Josh’s younger brother, Manzardo, Noel, Will Brennan, Rocchio, Tyler Freeman and Daniel Schneemann are going to have to do create a lot more offense than they did last year. It’s the easiest way to make sure they don’t regret keeping Josh Naylor for one more year.

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Hi! I’m Mandy Bell. My sixth season on the beat has officially come to a close, but these newsletters will continue to be delivered to your inbox each week throughout the offseason. Let’s get into the good stuff.

Happy 2025, everybody!

The ball in Times Square has dropped. You know what that means? It’s almost time for pitchers and catchers to report to Spring Training. In just over a month, the 2025 baseball season will begin with Cactus and Grapefruit League games, and the Guardians are still trying to piece their roster together.

Do they have enough starting pitching depth? Can they add more? Is this offense enough to be even better than it was in ’24? Who will win the starting second base job? Is Jhonkensy Noel ready to be an everyday right fielder? Can Lane Thomas’ defense be good enough for center field?

There are a lot of questions to be answered before Opening Day. Many of them will have to be solved before Spring Training begins. Until then, let’s do our best to preview what’s to come in 2025:

One free-agent target who would still be a perfect fit: RHP Spencer Turnbull



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The Guardians have added Shane Bieber, Luis Ortiz and Slade Cecconi to their starting mix, but they certainly can't have too many options. Turnbull fits the profile of a type of hurler Cleveland could take a chance on: not overpowering with his stuff but throws strikes. Turnbull proved he can be a reliable starter earlier in his career, but after missing the 2022 season due to Tommy John surgery, he took some time settling back in. And in '24, his season ended early because of a right lat strain. The Guardians helped Matthew Boyd come back from a serious injury this past year and get back to the pitcher he was earlier in his career. They could do the same with Turnbull.

One player poised to have a breakout season: RHP Gavin Williams

Williams was supposed to take a step forward in 2024. Instead, an elbow injury sidelined him until July and he was left playing catch-up for the rest of the year. In flashes, we saw just how elite Williams can be, but his consistency lacked. His rookie season in ’23 was stellar. Now, it’s time to prove he can be the every-fifth-day workhorse this organization projects him to be. And with thin starting depth, the Guardians will need Williams to step up now more than ever.

One prospect to watch in 2025: OF Chase DeLauter



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As much as everyone would love for this year’s No. 1 overall pick, Travis Bazzana, to be ready for a 2025 debut, that’s far from certain. It’d be shocking if DeLauter didn’t get his first call to the Majors this upcoming season. He dazzled in Spring Training in '24, hitting four homers in 13 Cactus League games and knocking in the most runs of anyone in camp (10). But once again, injuries derailed his path to the Majors. The Guardians need outfield depth and this former top prospect (now No. 2, as ranked by MLB Pipeline) could be the answer if he can stay healthy.

One prediction for the new year: José Ramírez will have a 40-40 season



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Ramírez has always wanted to hit this milestone, but coming up one home run short in 2024 has to leave him desperate for his next chance to do it again. The All-Star third baseman worked against Father Time this past year, nearly doubling his steal totals from the last few seasons. The more he ages, the smarter he gets on the basepaths, and if Cleveland can pick up another power bat to add some more protection behind him in the lineup, Ramírez could get another crack at joining an exclusive club.

NEW STATCAST METRICS

It’s easy for things to get lost in the holiday shuffle, so just in case you missed it, Statcast added new baserunning metrics so that you can have even more proof behind your arguments that your favorite player is faster than the rest.

There are two new leaderboards you can explore: basestealing and baserunning value. Never before had there been a Statcast stat to measure basestealing skill. Now we can see who has the right blend of speed, aggressiveness and great jumps to be the best at swiping bags.



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Here’s how MLB.com’s David Adler explained two of the new stats:

The new leaderboard introduces Net Bases Gained. Think of it as a runner's successful stolen bases above average. Every runner is given credit for his advances via steals and balks, and penalized for his outs made via caught stealings and pickoffs, based on the success probability of all those stolen base opportunities. The difference between a player's base advances vs. average and his outs created vs. average is his Net Bases Gained.

We've also never had a complete Statcast baserunning stat that combines stolen bases and extra bases taken into one all-encompassing number. Now we do. Baserunning Run Value measures the total baserunning impact of every player.

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Alex Cobb’s contract. Dreaming of Chase DeLauter. More Carlos Santana – Terry Pluto’s Guardians Scribbles

By Terry Pluto

Updated: Jan. 05, 2025, 5:13 a.m.|Published: Jan. 05, 2025, 5:12 a.m.


CLEVELAND, Ohio – Random scribbles in my Guardians notebook:

He got how much? … That’s what I said when I heard Alex Cobb signed with Detroit. To be exact, the Tigers gave Alex Cobb $15 million. If he pitches 140 innings, he receives a $1 million bonus.

I repeat, they gave Cobb how much? … Cobb is 37 years old. He’s had so many injuries. He made three regular season starts for Cleveland in 2024, covering 16 1/3 innings with a 2.76 ERA. He pitched twice in the playoffs, a 7.94 ERA in 5 2/3 innings. He had hip problems. Back problems. Finger/blister problems. When healthy, Cobb is a solid starter. But add it all up and Cobb pitched only 22 innings in the majors last year.

His contract looks even better … Shane Bieber likely won’t be back until the middle of the summer as he recovers from Tommy John elbow surgery. Bieber signed a contract with Cleveland that works like this: In 2025, he has a base salary of $10 million. He has a player option for 2026 of $16 million. If he decides to leave after the 2025 season, he receives a $4 million buyout. It’s a guaranteed $14 million deal.

Who would you pick? … Cobb at $15 million or Bieber with his deal for 2025? I’ll take the 29-year-old Bieber.

He’s one of my favorite pitchers ... Baltimore signed Charlie Morton to a $15 million deal for 2025. Yes, the same money Detroit gave Cobb. Morton was 8-10 with a 4.19 ERA for Atlanta last season. Over the previous four years, he averaged 31 starts. The right-hander is 41 years old, but stays healthy and does a solid job. In 2023, he had a 14-12 record and a 3.64 ERA for the Braves. I wish Cleveland would have signed him.

If he can only stay healthy … Chase DeLauter opened the 2024 season at Class AA Akron. He was dealing with foot problems, something that has plagued him for the last few years. He batted .195 (12 for 62, 1 HR) before he was shut down to heal. He came back later in the season, dividing time between Akron and Class AAA Columbus. In that second tour of duty, he hit .312 (25 for 80 with 7 HR). Next stop, the Arizona Fall League where he batted .340.

I repeat, if he can only stay healthy … DeLauter batted .500 in 13 spring training games in 2024. He had four HR and 10 RBI. In 2023, he batted .355 (.945 OPS) with five HR and 37 RBI in Class A, his first minor league season. He is a natural right fielder with a power arm. He was clocked at 92 mph as a relief pitcher at James Madison, when he wasn’t playing the outfield for his college team.

When it comes to Carlos Santana, the stats tell us … he’ll play nearly every day. In 2023, he appeared in 146 games, hitting .240 (.747 OPS) with 23 HR and 86 RBI. In 2024, he played in 150 games, batting .238 (.749 OPS) with 23 HR and 71 RBI. The first baseman also won his first Gold Glove at the age of 39.

But a few years ago … I thought Santana was done. From 2021-22, he batted .210 (.675 OPS), averaging 19 HR and 63 RBI. But then he bounced back in 2023 and 2024. Now he’s back with Cleveland for his third tour of duty.

For Santana, the cruelest month is April … veteran Cleveland fans know that. He batted .190 in April 2024. When he’d start slow in Cleveland, Manager Terry Francona would say, “I look at the back of his baseball card and wait.” That meant Francona was sure Santana would end up with his usual productive stats if people were just patient with him until the weather heats up.

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Terry had a good argument: $15M for Cobb seems more like a deal you'd expect from a team with unlimited money, not the Tigers. Gleyber Torres deal by comparison is a bargain for them -- and we wouldn't want him either; although see Paul Hoynes comments in the next post

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Hey, Hoynsie: Do you expect the Guardians to sign a veteran middle infielder on a short-term deal for insurance? There seems to be a lot of hope placed on Juan Brito when it comes to playing second base. — Steve Buzon, Alexandria, Virginia.

Hey, Steve: I thought Gleyber Torres would have been a good fit on a short-term deal to play second base. The Tigers signed him to a one-year $15 million deal.

The Guards, however, have a lot of options for that job. Bringing in a guy like Torres, if only for a year, would slow the process of finding who can and cannot play. But his bat certainly would have helped.

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Some more Hoynes:


Hey, Hoynsie: Do you think Gabriel Arias could be a serious option to be the every day right fielder coming out of spring training? Or perhaps he could platoon with Will Brennan? — Steve S., Topsail Island, North Carolina.

Hey, Steve: First things first, Arias has to make the 26-man roster coming out of spring training because he’s out of minor league options. If he makes the club, he’s going to have to hit regardless of where he plays. In 53 games last season in Cleveland, he didn’t do much of that, while showing little regard for controlling the strike zone. He did hit well at Triple-A Columbus and in a recent stint in winter ball in Venezuela.
I can’t see him being the everyday right fielder, but the G’s do have a big hole at second base following the trade of Andres Gimenez. Arias has played all over the diamond so he’s familiar with both positions.

[polite way of saying: are you nuts?

Hey, Hoynsie: Is Big Christmas (Jhonkensy Noel) playing winter ball or working in any way to improve his hitting? — Art Flicker, Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Hey, Art: Noel isn’t playing winter ball. He’s been training at the G’s complex in Goodyear, Arizona, essentially since the end of their postseason run. Of course, I’m sure Big Christmas took a break for the Christmas holidays.
he G’s do have a big hole at second base following the trade of Andres Gimenez. Arias has played all over the diamond so he’s familiar with both positions.