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Matthew Boyd and Alex Cobb are relishing time with Guardians: ‘It feels like a college dugout’
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NEW YORK, NEW YORK - AUGUST 20: Matthew Boyd #16 of the Cleveland Guardians pitches in the second inning against the New York Yankees at Yankee Stadium on August 20, 2024 in New York City. (Photo by Mike Stobe/Getty Images)
By Ken Rosenthal
Sep 6, 2024



Suffice it to say that Alex Cobb and Matthew Boyd are experiencing a bit of culture shock with the Cleveland Guardians.

The dugout, it’s just different.

“Lots of chirping,” Cobb said. “They talk a lot of trash. There’s a reaction to every pitch, every night.”

“It feels like a college dugout,” Boyd said. “Guys are loose, giving each other a hard time, the other team a hard time.”

The Guardians are challenging for the best record in the American League with the youngest group of position players and the fifth-youngest group of pitchers in the majors. Their two newest starting pitchers, Cobb, 36, and Boyd, 33, say the vibes are nothing short of invigorating. In turn, they are trying to invigorate the Guardians’ rotation, a trouble spot for the club all season.

Neither was a particularly sexy addition. Neither before joining Cleveland had pitched a major-league inning this season. The Guardians signed Boyd as a free agent on June 29 while he was still recovering from Tommy John surgery. They acquired Cobb from the San Francisco Giants on July 30 while he was still recovering from left hip surgery and shoulder trouble.

Both, however, are now pitching well, joining Tanner Bibee, Gavin Williams and Ben Lively to give the Guardians — dare we say it? — the best version of their rotation thus far. The next starts for Boyd and Cobb, at Dodger Stadium this weekend against the fourth-highest scoring team in the majors, amount to their biggest tests yet.

“Recency bias is easy to fall into,” Cobb said Wednesday. “But we just had a whole turn through the rotation, maybe a little bit more, of guys going out and dominating. If we continue to live up to our potential, there sure doesn’t look like there are many holes in that rotation.”

For the Guardians, a better performance from their starters is critical. Their bullpen leads the majors in ERA. Six of their relievers, though, entered the weekend with 60 or more appearances. Four of them (Hunter Gaddis, Cade Smith, Emmanuel Clase and Tim Herrin) ranked among the top eight in the majors in that category.

This is where Boyd and Cobb enter the equation.

Boyd, who missed time in 2021 and 2022 after undergoing flexor tendon surgery and then had Tommy John in late June 2023, made his Guardians debut on Aug. 13 and has produced a 2.38 ERA in four starts.

Cobb, true to form for a pitcher who has undergone six surgeries and made 14 career trips to the injured list, dealt with one last ailment before debuting on Aug. 9, a blister on his index finger. He encountered difficulty again after only two starts, going on the IL with a fractured nail. But in his return against the Pittsburgh Pirates on Sunday, he carried a perfect game into the seventh and wound up with six scoreless innings.

Both Boyd and Cobb view their tenures with the Guardians almost as gifts, and not only because of the physical hardships they’ve endured. Boyd has appeared in the postseason only once, in 2022 with the Seattle Mariners. Cobb hasn’t pitched in the playoffs since 2013 with the Tampa Bay Rays, when he knocked out Cleveland with 6 2/3 scoreless innings in the wild-card game.

Now they are part of a rollicking club that not only leads the AL Central by four games, but also is tied with the New York Yankees and only a half-game behind the Baltimore Orioles for the best record in the AL.

“I haven’t been part of a team with the amount of energy these guys bring every single night,” Cobb said. “I know that might not sound like much to a lot of fans and people that tune in. But you get into August and September, it’s tough to continue to have that same energy you start off the season with.

“Obviously, winning creates a little bit of added energy. But the way that this team pulls for everybody, it’s been so refreshing. They’re just so young that they don’t know any better. They expect to win every single night.”
Alex Cobb has a 2.76 ERA in three starts for the Guardians. (Nick Cammett / Getty Images)

In a sense, Cobb’s trade to the Guardians brought his career full circle. After the Rays, then known as the Devil Rays, chose him in the fourth round of the 2006 draft, his catchers in his first two seasons of pro ball included Craig Albernaz and Stephen Vogt, the Guardians’ current bench coach and manager, respectively.

Vogt, the Devil Rays’ 12th-round pick in 2007, said Cobb was the first teammate he met at extended spring training in St. Petersburg. The two were soon to depart for Hudson Valley, a short-season team in the old New York-Penn League. Cobb, then 19, three years younger than Vogt, introduced himself while on the phone, standing in the hallway of the team hotel. They were teammates not only that season, but also at Triple A in 2011 and with the Rays in ‘12.

“It’s been really surreal to have him on our team and to be working with him again,” Vogt said.

Cobb, in turn, is tickled that his old teammate now has “the keys to an organization,” and that he, Vogt and Albernaz occasionally find themselves “sitting in a room together just kind of laughing about if they knew what stupid stuff we did in the minor leagues.”

All these years later, Vogt views both Cobb and Boyd as almost ideal additions, bringing veteran presence and combining with the Guardians’ highly regarded pitching instructors — pitching coach Carl Willis, assistant pitching coach Joe Torres and bullpen coach Brad Goldberg — to help the younger starters understand their own strengths.

Veteran presence, though, is most meaningful, perhaps only meaningful, when the veteran performs well. Cobb’s ERA in his three starts with Cleveland is 2.76. In his last outing especially, he felt things starting to click. He could see it in the Pirates’ reactions to the way his stuff was moving.

His goal is to be in midseason form by October.

“Think about 10 years of not winning. It wears on you,” Cobb said. “Other places I’ve been, August and September has been like, when are we going to lose enough games to where the organization gives up? It’s a toxic mindset to have.

“I went to San Francisco after they won 107 games (in 2021). With an expanded postseason, (you think) there’s no way you’re not going to go back to the postseason. And then it just didn’t happen for two years.

“This has been such an amazing opportunity. I’m so thankful to the organization and to Vogter and Alby because I know they had a big hand in bringing me over.

“It’s changed my career, for sure.”

Boyd, like Cobb, had connections in the Guardians organization. Andrew Moore, the team’s Triple-A assistant pitching coach, was three years behind Boyd at Oregon State. Left fielder Steven Kwan, though 6 1/2 years younger, also was an Oregon State alum.

Then there were those who Boyd met after signing with the Giants in 2022. He was recovering from his flexor-tendon surgery then, and never pitched for the team before getting traded to the Mariners. But he became familiar with two members of the Giants’ coaching staff who are now with the Guardians, Albernaz and Kai Correa.

He also made a friend who played no role in his decision to sign with Cleveland, seeing as how he was still with the Giants at the time.

Cobb.

“After my first surgery, I leaned on Alex a lot in San Francisco,” Boyd said. “I had a setback, I wasn’t feeling like I thought I would be feeling. He was a friend and a mentor in that moment, guiding me.”

Boyd returned with the Mariners in Sept. 2022, posting a 1.35 ERA in 10 relief outings, and also made one appearance in the team’s Division Series loss to the Houston Astros. He then rejoined the Tigers, the team that in 2015 acquired him from the Toronto Blue Jays in the David Price trade, on a one-year, $10 million free-agent deal. After only 15 starts, he required Tommy John surgery.

When the current season started, Boyd was an unsigned free agent, rehabilitating at his home in Sammamish, Wash. He coordinated his rehab efforts with his surgeon, Dr. Keith Meister; a former Mariners rehab coordinator, Matt Toth; specialists who worked for his agent, Scott Boras; and physical therapists from his previous team, the Tigers. The Uniform Player’s Contract dictates a team must incur a player’s reasonable medical and hospital expenses for up to two years from the date of initial treatment of an injury.

Boyd spent time with his family, coaching T-ball and his daughter’s softball team. He said it was refreshing to see the trees bloom. And he watched plenty of major-league games, quickly noticing the Guardians were much-improved over last season when they finished 76-86.

“You just knew something special was going on,” Boyd said.

It didn’t take long, however, for the Guardians’ rotation to be depleted by, among other issues, the three-month absence of Williams, the season-ending loss of Shane Bieber and struggles of Triston McKenzie. In a tight market for starting pitching, the Guardians were looking for creative solutions. And Boyd, looking for opportunity, was well aware of the team’s reputation for getting the most out of its pitching.

“Man,” he thought, “that’s where I want to be.”

Boyd agreed to a major-league contract, then began a rehabilitation assignment 16 days after signing. He made five minor-league starts before the Guardians promoted him. In his first two major-league outings, he completed 5 1/3 innings. In his past two, he went six. He said this is probably the best he has felt since 2019.

At the start of last week, the Guardians lost three straight at home to the Kansas City Royals, falling into a first-place tie for the division lead. They then fell behind 5-2 in the seventh inning of the series finale before rallying to win, 7-5. Neither Boyd nor Cobb pitched in the series. But both were impressed by the resiliency of their teammates and the steady hand of Vogt.

“We were down in that fourth game and had every reason to roll over. And man, guys just fought right back. The vibe in the dugout was good all the way through. It was like, ‘We got this.’ There wasn’t any panic or distress. It was, ‘Hey, let’s go do it.’”

The Guardians keep doing it, playing their chaotic brand of “Guards Ball,” but also finding new ways to win. Boyd and Cobb, after all their injuries, all their years of playing for losing clubs, almost can’t believe their good fortune. They tell each other, “We get to be part of this now? They’re letting us be part of what they’ve done all year?”

Boyd said Cobb had perhaps the best analogy, comparing the two of them to kids at an amusement park who suddenly found themselves beating a long wait to get on their favorite ride.

Think of it as their little secret.

“We jumped the line.”

The Athletic’s Zack Meisel contributed to this story

(Top photo of Matthew Boyd: Mike Stobe / Getty Image
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The Guardians designated RHP Scott Barlow for assignment this morning and selected the contract of LHP Anthony Gose.

Barlow had struggled as of late, allowed 12 hits and 11 earned runs in his last 11 2/3 innings.
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How Guardians All-Star Steven Kwan is handling a flirtation with .300 after flirting with .400
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KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI - SEPTEMBER 03: Steven Kwan #38 of the Cleveland Guardians hits a two-run single in the eighth inning against the Kansas City Royals at Kauffman Stadium on September 03, 2024 in Kansas City, Missouri. (Photo by Ed Zurga/Getty Images)
By Zack Meisel
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CLEVELAND — At 1:20 p.m. ET on June 20, Steven Kwan doubled to right field off Seattle Mariners starter Luis Castillo to lead off the bottom of the first inning.

For 32 minutes, until a strikeout on his next trip to the plate, his batting average sat at .400.

This was shaping up to be the Summer of Steven. As he flirted with history — no big-leaguer has hit .400 in 83 years — he received a ton of attention. He topped the American League All-Star lineup. He fulfilled daily interview requests. He tormented opposing pitchers.

Through it all, he tried not to buy into the hype. He downplayed reporters’ questions about his torrid pace. He advised his dad to ditch social media whenever he sent his son stats or posts lauding his latest feat.

Kwan entered the Cleveland Guardians’ series opener against the Tampa Bay Rays on Thursday with a .290/.361/.419 slash line. That’s worth commending, especially considering his jump in power, lack of strikeouts and ever-stellar defense in left field. On balance, Kwan has enjoyed another great season.

Since that early-summer surge, however, Kwan’s offensive numbers have plunged. He’s no longer flirting with .400. He’s flirting with .300.

And, as he noted, when mired in a funk this profound, it can be difficult to ignore the noise.

Kwan has never endured a stretch like this, and because it followed a stretch that had the baseball universe talking, it seems even more glaring, even if that’s unfair.

Kwan is Cleveland’s catalyst, always plugged into the top spot in manager Stephen Vogt’s order. He’s the primary reason José Ramírez and Josh Naylor have ranked among the league leaders in RBIs all season. The Guardians offense functions at its optimal rate when Kwan’s in a groove.

So why has it been so challenging to rediscover that groove?

Hitting coach Chris Valaika said he’s been working to keep Kwan thinking positively, which typically isn’t a concern for the steady left fielder, who is adamant about remaining neutral whether clicking or slumping. During a recent conversation between the two, Kwan said he was a bit naive in thinking that, in his third season in the majors, he had seen it all and knew what to expect.

“Then, it’s like, ‘Wow,’” Kwan said. “I see something new. I don’t know anything. I’m still so young.”

Kwan’s career has been defined by counteracting pitchers’ ever-shifting approach to him.

“Every year,” Valaika said, “there’s been something he’s had to grow and adjust to.”

Kwan broke into the big leagues with a smoldering bat, and pitchers quickly learned not to overlook him. He flaunted an elite contact ability and recorded a five-hit performance in his third career game.

Last season, pitchers realized Kwan preferred not to offer at the first pitch. Only Baltimore Orioles catcher Adley Rutschman registered a lower first-pitch swing rate, so pitchers started attacking Kwan early in the count. So, Kwan started to swing more. (He once again ranks second, behind Rutschman, by the way.)

Vogt served as Seattle’s bullpen coach last season, and he said the Mariners’ game plan against Kwan was to throw it over the plate. Let him slap a single somewhere or hit it at a fielder. There was no use in attempting to convince him to chase some junk. There was no benefit in wasting pitches against a guy with an unparalleled grasp of the strike zone and an unmatched contact ability.

So, entering this season, Kwan made a concerted effort to capitalize on pitches he knew he could handle, even if it meant occasionally misfiring with a more aggressive swing. If pitchers were going to pepper the strike zone and invite him to turn a fastball down the middle into a harmless single, he had to present a more imposing threat.

As a result, he has more than doubled his career high in home runs, with 13 (and that’s while missing four weeks with a hamstring injury). Those home runs follow a pattern. Of the 13, all came on pitches over the middle of the plate or inside. Almost all are on heaters. Twelve of the 13 were pulled to right or right-center. (The other still landed on the right side of center field.)

It’s no secret: Those are the types of pitches Kwan intends to damage. He’s never targeting the outfield seats. He hasn’t fallen in love with a home run stroke. It’s merely a product of being more aggressive when the opportunity arises. He credits his “short limbs” for being able to turn on an inside pitch.

Pitchers have once again adjusted.

“That’s the cat-and-mouse of this,” Valaika said.

• Kwan’s first-half slash line: .352/.407/.513
• Kwan’s second-half slash line: .198/.297/.281

Pitchers are respecting his propensity to yank a fastball inside the foul pole. So they’re instead tossing him secondary stuff low and away and challenging him to sock a line drive to left field.

“He hasn’t gotten a lot of those mistakes of late,” Valaika said, “and when he has gotten them, he’s been missing them. He just needs to cover that hole right now and take his hits the other way to earn back the other side of the plate where he’s done his damage.

“That’s what the game’s asking right now. Go over there, take your hit, close that hole to allow yourself to do what you normally do.”

Kwan’s popup and whiff rates have soared. His line-drive rate has tumbled. His average exit velocity — already a low figure — has plummeted. Valaika said he has noticed more defensive swings, an atypical sight for a customarily confident hitter who knows exactly how he wants to attack a pitcher.
Kwan’s whiff rate

June: 3.9 percent
July: 10 percent
August: 8.6 percent
September: 15.9 percent

It’s natural for any hitter to desperately wave at any pitch that floats toward the zone to escape a skid. Kwan and Valaika said you can’t walk your way out of a slump, but you can exhibit more selectivity to earn a pitch you can handle. As such, Kwan has drawn 18 walks in his past 22 games and eight in his past six games. He also has recorded a hit in four consecutive contests, the first time he’s strung together a stretch like that in a month.

It’s a far cry from the sort of facts that accompanied his name earlier in the season, when he had nearly as many three-hit games as strikeouts. But Kwan never thought he’d hit .400 all season.

“If we were to end (the season) today,” Valaika said, “(about) .290 with 13 homers and almost an .800 OPS? Pretty damn good year.”

What’s helping Kwan persevere through a slide? The team’s place atop the standings. He said any struggles were far more debilitating last season when the Guardians fell out of the playoff chase in the middle of the summer. Why dwell on individual disappointment when there’s so much else to appreciate?

“You can justify a lot of things,” he said. “‘OK, I didn’t have the day I wanted, but I helped the team today.’ Our goal is to win the World Series. If you can contribute to that in any way, you feel like you’re helping the team. When you’re in a funk, it hurts to do poorly, but it hurts more to let your guys down around you.

“When you’re not playing meaningful baseball and then you’re not hitting and playing as well as you want, then a lot of noises get really loud and you have too much time to think about things that really aren’t important. Thankfully, today it’s like, ‘We need to win this game.’ And tomorrow it’s, ‘We need to win this game.’”
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