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856Guardians manager Stephen Vogt says the way pitchers train and approach the game has changed dramatically.
Pitching today is grip it and rip it: Guardians spring training breakfast
Updated: Mar. 16, 2024, 10:56 a.m.|Published: Mar. 16, 2024, 9:33 a.m.
By Paul Hoynes, cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- In the eyes of manager Stephen Vogt the art of pitching has changed.
He’s not sure if it’s led to more pitchers getting hurt. After spending 10 years in the big leagues as mostly a catcher, however, he is sure the requirements of the job are different.
“We’re asking pitchers now to rip their best pitch every single time out,” Vogt told reporters at the team’s training facility in Goodyear, Arizona. “Ten plus years ago it was, ‘Hey, ease your way into the game. Let’s work. Let’s see how you’re doing. Try and save some bullets.’
“Now, we expect our pitchers to come out and rip their best pitch every single time out.”
Vogt, who retired as a player following the 2022 season, says pitchers train differently as well.
“They’re trying to get the most velocity, the most movement, the most this (the most that),” said Vogt. “Does that contribute to it (injuries)? Probably, but I’m not a medical expert.
“I just think the way we train is so different now. Plus we’re hearing about injuries all the time. I mean we hear it instantly. Anytime you have this many pitchers in camps around the country, you’re going to have a lot of injuries at once.
“There are a lot of factors that go into it. You can’t put your finger on one thing and say this is why.”
Vogt said swing-and-miss fever plays a part as well. The strikeout is the gold standard for pitching and organizations.
“The way we can train pitching now,” he said. “The way we can measure it. Pitching is so far ahead of hitting.
“Everyone is searching for swing-and-miss because if you can get swing-and-miss, there’s no potential for damage (by the batter). You want as little contact as possible because if you put the ball in play, there’s a chance the batter will get on base.
“That’s just way the game has gone.”
The Guardians announced Thursday that right-handers Daniel Espino (right shoulder) and Trevor Stephan (right elbow) will miss the 2024 season, while right-handers Gavin Williams (right elbow) and James Karinchak (right shoulder) will open the season on the injured list.
Guardians right-hander Tyler Beede threw five scoreless innings in Friday's 6-1 spring win over the Royals.
Friday’s game
Right-hander Tyler Beede re-introduced himself to the competition for the growing number of openings on the Guardians’ pitching staff Friday.
Beede, in camp on a minor league deal, pitched five scoreless innings in a 6-1 win over the Royals at Surprise Stadium. Beede, a former teammate Vogt’s when they played with the Giants, struck out three, walked one and allowed three hits.
He is the first Guardians’ starter to go that deep into a game this spring. With one opening in the rotation and several in the bullpen, the performance came at a good time for the 30-year-old Beede.
“We still don’t know what Tyler is going to bring, or how he fits, if he fits,” Vogt told reporters before Friday’s game in Surprise, Arizona. “There’s still a lot to figure out there.
“But the message Carl (Willis, pitching coach) and I have been delivering to Tyler is that, ‘You have nasty stuff. You’re doing a great job of getting ahead. Now you need to finish the hitter quickly.’
“In my experience of catching Tyler and watching him over the years, he’s got such good stuff, but at times he tries to be too perfect. He doesn’t need to be. We want to attack the hitter and put them away.”
Friday’s game was delayed by just over an hour by rain, and it took a while for the Guards’ offense to get going. K.C.’s Brady Singer held them scoreless through four innings, but the G’s put the game away with four runs in the seventh.
Raynel Delgado drove in two runs with a bases-loaded single for a 2-0 lead. Daniel Schneemann followed with a two-run triple to make it 4-0. Petey Halpin and Christian Cairo added run-scoring singles in the ninth.
Tim Herrin and Cade Smith, competing for spots in the bullpen, looked good as well. Smith pitched two innings for the first time this spring.
The Guardians are 8-11-1 in the desert.
Guardians right-hander Triston McKenzie faces the Giants on Saturday.
Saturday’s game
Triston McKenzie will make his third start of the season when he faces the Giants at Scottsdale Stadium at 4:05 p.m. ET. MLB.com webcast will carry the games.
The Giants are starting RHP Spencer Howard (0-1, 3.18).
McKenzie (1-0) has looked good in his first two starts. He hasn’t allowed a run in five innings, striking out six and walking one after being limited to four starts in 2023 because of right shoulder and elbow injuries.
“I’m very excited that I was able to go out there and throw three innings pain-free,” McKenzie told reporters after his last start against the Dodgers. “That’s huge. Just being able to go out there and get into a rhythm was really nice.”
Hunter Gaddis, Jaime Barria, Anthony Banda, Adam Oller and Jack Leftwich are scheduled to pitch against the Giants as well.
Flu bug
The latest victims of the viral infection that has swept through the Guardians clubhouse are Tyler Freeman and Xzavion Curry. They were away from the training complex on Friday.
What’s next
Here are the Guardians’ next five games after Saturday:
Reds @Goodyear Ballpark on Sunday at 7:05 p.m. ET. WTAM will carry the game. Game will feature top prospects from the Guardians and Reds in MLB’s Spring Breakout series. RHP Shane Bieber (I0-0, 3.18) will start for Cleveland and the Reds will start LHP Brandon Williamson (0-2, 4.00).
@White Sox on Monday at Camelback Ranch in Glendale at 4:05 p.m.
Milwaukee @at Goodyear Ballpark on Tuesday at 4:05 p.m. as part of a split-squad day.
The Guards’ other team will play the Rockies @ Talking Stick at 4:05 p.m. WTAM will carry the Guards-Brewers game.
The Guardians are off Wednesday with Kansas City visiting Goodyear Ballpark on Thursday for a 4:05 p.m. game. WTAM will broadcast the game.
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